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re: Georgia keeping Richt is a great decision

Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:53 am to
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His is the only notable program in a state with more talent per capita than any in the country

When did UGA reside in Louisiana? I think MS and AL also have more talent per capita than GA.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86560 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:55 am to
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When did UGA reside in Louisiana? I think MS and AL also have more talent per capita than GA


Whoever you quoted was incorrect in saying "per capita", but overall there is far more talent in GA than those others. We're behind CA, TX, and FL pretty much when it comes to HS talent on a yearly basis.
Posted by LATIGERFAN
Member since Sep 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:17 am to
Richt is a hell of a coach. The GA athletic department has saddled him with very difficult schedules. One year GA played AZ St., OK St. and GA Tech out of conference. It's ridiculous to expect titles when you have a brutal schedule. The two years they won the SEC, there were two undefeated teams out there, so they didn't get to back their way in to a title game the way many SEC champions have.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86560 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:20 am to
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The two years they won the SEC, there were two undefeated teams out there, so they didn't get to back their way in to a title game the way many SEC champions have.


This is another point that UGA fans make yet others accuse us of "whining" or "making excuses". In the last 20 years of the SEC:

96 UF
03 LSU
06 UF
07 LSU
08 UF
11 bama
12 bama
13 AU

have all played for a national title while having at least 1 loss. 01 UT would have played for it as well with 1 loss had they not been upset in the SECCG. There is certainly a fair amount of good fortune needed to win it all, and those teams got it. But hey that's life.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9601 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:27 am to
You may be mistaking total numbers, and per capita. LA has the most NFL talent per capita. Actually DC was ahead, but they aren't state.
Eta did quick search. Article is from Step '12.
says 4th year in a row.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 8:31 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40089 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:57 am to
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Whoever you quoted was incorrect in saying "per capita", but overall there is far more talent in GA than those others. We're behind CA, TX, and FL pretty much when it comes to HS talent on a yearly basis.

Either way the aggie fan is wrong. Texas has more DI recruits than Ga and the aggies have won squat and I thought Mississippi had the highest per capita for NFL players but I could be wrong about that one.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:24 am to
Richt's problem is he has never been able to put together a complete team. And the reason he has never had a complete team:
1. Top 10 recruiting when top 5 is needed. We often miss on key instate prospects.
2. Lack of daily ongoing discipline. This leads to inadequate performance on and off the field.
3. Poor roster management. We never have a full roster compared to our competition because Richt does not recruit allowing for inevitable attrition which has been considerable on all of his squads.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:37 am to
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Explain to me how there wasn't some luck involved in that play. It was an incredible play, but also lucky
You're dumb because that play occurred on 1st down in a tie ball game with over 2 minutes left and the ball around mid-field.

Unless him being called down somehow ends the game and also gives Oregon a single point, the game continues and Auburn still wins.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86560 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:43 am to
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Richt's problem is he has never been able to put together a complete team


I disagree on that. 02 and 04 were complete teams with no real weaknesses. 12 had enough offense to carry the weak spots on defense except for about 20 minutes worth of the biggest game of the year, and it proved to be our undoing.

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Top 10 recruiting when top 5 is needed


While it's true that bama and UF had a run of top 2/3 classes, we've had enough talent. Of course it'd be nice to have a few more 5 stars, but outside of a few years we've had plenty enough talent.

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Lack of daily ongoing discipline


On the contrary we've suffered due to too much discipline. Our players aren't doing anything different on the weekends than what the other SEC players are doing. But instead of making people run stadiums or brushing a drug test under the rug, we let the AJC publish it for national news and suspend for first offenses.


Our biggest issues have been lack of good coordinators at the same time (minus 01-04).
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 9:49 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40089 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:46 am to
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While it's true that bama and UF had a run of top 2/3 classes, we've had enough talent. Of course it'd be nice to have a few more 5 stars, but outside of a few years we've had plenty enough talent.

There's a stat that proves we haven't had enough talent. I can't remember how far back it goes but every one that has had a NC has had a top 5 class while we have not.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10799 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:46 am to
Why does everyone want us to fire Richt?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86560 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:48 am to
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I can't remember how far back it goes but every one that has had a NC has had a top 5 class while we have not.


Yeah I agree with that logic, and it's pretty simple really. If you have 5 stars across the board, you'll likely be more successful. I get that. All I'm saying is that under Richt there have been years where even despite "only" have a top 10 class we've had enough talent to win it all but haven't for one reason or another.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:51 am to
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Why does everyone want us to fire Richt?



It's an interesting situation for sure. Opposing fan bases want us to fire Richt because none of them (other than Florida) can put together a winning record against him.

Some in our fan base want us to fire Richt because despite that strong overall record we haven't "put it all together" under him yet.
Posted by silverdawg
Member since Mar 2014
608 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:53 am to
You're a pretty good poster IMO, so I will take the post at face value in saying; "he's better than a lot of coaches" and he was hamstrung by a bad school president and social experiment of an athletic director for a lot of his tenure.

I think we are building a better ship and crew for this next venture into the uncharted waters of the first 4+1 season.

However the LSU fan will be talking college baseball by the end of October this season.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86560 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:54 am to
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Why does everyone want us to fire Richt?


GT: 12-1
AU: 8-5
SC: 8-5
UT: 9-4
Bama: 3-2
LSU: 4-4

Because despite everyone that says he sucks he's actually been pretty successful against the best teams we play. His one real blemish is against UF at 5-8, but he's won 3 in a row and 4 of the last 7, which considering our 1990-present history with florida is pretty remarkable.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
7674 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:18 am to
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2012 was ugas best chance in a long time. also had good chances in 2007 and 2002. Maybe even 2005

Crow,

Are you just looking at things in the room and saying that you love them?

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:28 am to
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Are you just looking at things in the room and saying that you love them?

I love lamp.


What did I say that was wrong though?
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:34 am to
I love lamp? I love lamp. I love lamp.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:39 am to
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10 - Dyer's run where he wasn't actually down (plus cam falls into Auburn's lap)
Posted by mjw60532
Athens, Ga
Member since Apr 2014
297 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:49 am to
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You're dumb because that play occurred on 1st down in a tie ball game with over 2 minutes left and the ball around mid-field.

Unless him being called down somehow ends the game and also gives Oregon a single point, the game continues and Auburn still wins.


I don't disagree with you at all. That was definitely a possibility. But 30 extra yards on that play definitely had some luck. It's not like Auburn's offense had been marching down the field all game and it was an automatic touchdown that was coming. Every single team I mentioned made great plays, and could have won otherwise, but also had luck. I thought even the most delusional fan would realize that. Guess not.
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