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re: Georgia keeping Richt is a great decision

Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:58 pm to
My fingers were all over the place.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:04 am to
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He has been one of the most consistent winners in the SEC in the last 10 years


He is 2nd in the SEC in wins since 01, 4th in wins among BCS teams, has 6 east titles, and 2 SEC titles.

I don't see how anyone at Ga.lets a guy like that go.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 12:14 am
Posted by Aurora Borealis
Member since Feb 2014
285 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:19 am to
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Georgia has had some terrible luck whereas some other SEC teams to win titles during the Richt years have had some great luck. Nothing you can do about that

It wouldn't have had to come down to luck if they'd placed greater emphasis on the defensive side of the ball the past few seasons. A healthy Georgia has had a championship caliber offense the past 2 years, but they've lacked a championship caliber defense or strong special teams.
Posted by mjw60532
Athens, Ga
Member since Apr 2014
297 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:24 am to
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It wouldn't have had to come down to luck if they'd placed greater emphasis on the defensive side of the ball the past few seasons. A healthy Georgia has had a championship caliber offense the past 2 years, but they've lacked a championship caliber defense or strong special teams.


Exactly. Hopefully the addition of Pruitt will do wonders for our defense after watching Todd Grantham suck for too many years.
Posted by mjw60532
Athens, Ga
Member since Apr 2014
297 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:25 am to
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ur dumb

Explain to me how there wasn't some luck involved in that play. It was an incredible play, but also lucky.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:26 am to
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but they've lacked a championship caliber defense



This phrase will haunt my memories of Richtian football 2008-2013
Posted by Aurora Borealis
Member since Feb 2014
285 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:33 am to
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This phrase will haunt my memories of Richtian football 2008-2013


I know. All the Big 6 members have struggled on 1 or both sides of the ball the past few seasons. Alabama has had offensive inconsistency and struggles versus the pass in 2010, 2012, and 2013. Georgia has had problems with defense in general. Aside from 2012, Tennessee has struggled hard on both sides of the ball. Auburn has struggled on defense, and their offense has had serious down years. Florida has struggled on offense. LSU struggled on offense up to last season, then the defense struggled.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24633 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:54 am to
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Explain to me how there wasn't some luck involved in that play. It was an incredible play, but also lucky.




You're asking a barner to separate luck and skill. Not happening.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:15 am to
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You're asking a barner to separate luck and skill. Not happening.
Let me know when Georgia goes undefeated and gets left out like Auburn did in 2004. That was truly bad luck. I find it laughable that Georgia fans play their lack of championships off to bad luck because many teams were closer and had worse luck.

Auburn came closer to winning the BCS two other times than Georgia ever did. This is on top of the BCS championship Auburn actually won. Auburn went undefeated in 2004 and gave up the winning touchdown to Florida State with 13 seconds remaining in the actual championship game in 2013. Georgia never went undefeated during the BCS era and they never made it to the championship game either

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49338 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:27 am to
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Let me know when Georgia goes undefeated and gets left out like Auburn did in 200

This is not relevant in the slightest. But keep sounding like a complete idiot.
Posted by JStanDawgFan
Evans, Ga
Member since Jul 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:44 am to
It seems to me that the elephant in the room is that had the new playoff been in place at any point in the Richt's tenure at UGA; this conversation would be completely moot. Richt and his teams have had a struggle to finish within the top 2 during the BCS era. However finishing in the top 4 while on a hot streak, seems to be something he has been able to accomplish numerous times. I think with the playoff now in place, you could see Richt get to a title sooner rather than later. Of course, this is just one mans opinion, and I am sure, not the opinion of the community at large.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 6:45 am
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
1749 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:08 am to
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His is the only notable program in a state with more talent per capita than any in the country. He should have done more by now.


Our Disney fans say this is becuase we are surrounded by so many other good programs. It carrys a little weight, but not much.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:18 am to
Richt has certainly had some underachieving seasons, but I do enjoy all of the SEC teams that trash on him. Exactly one SEC team has a winning record vs. Richt (Florida).

Other than that one team (that Richt currently has three consecutive wins against) every other SEC team has failed to post a winning record vs. Richt.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:41 am to
There are some super tards in this thread, but the bottom line is that the OP is right and there really hasn't been any point where Richt clearly should have been fired. The ONLY time you can even make the SLIGHTEST case would be after 2010. I know for a fact that Richt was given a mandate by the AD that he had to win a certain number of games in 2011 or he was going to be fired. We ended up winning 10 games and the east. The following year we competed for a title. So basically no, there has been no point where you can undeniably say "Richt should have been fired at such and such time".

It's different with a guy like Chiz, because everyone knew he only was successful because of his QB and his OC. And in between he had 2 unbelievably lousy seasons. Richt has never had a season even approach as bad as auburn was the past few years so it's not a clear cut black and white type of deal.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:46 am to
Chizik had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games and he was fired after that season. Richt had a losing season in 2010 and finised with 4 or 5 losses last year

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:48 am to
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Chizik had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games and he was fired after that season. Richt had a losing season in 2010 and finised with 4 or 5 losses last year

There's a big difference between 6-6 and a bowl loss and 3-9 with no bowl at all while going winless in the conference.

If Richt went 3-9 this season, he would be fired.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:49 am to
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Chizik had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games


Same number as Richt, and Richt has about ten more seasons unders his belt
Posted by JStanDawgFan
Evans, Ga
Member since Jul 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:51 am to
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Chizik had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games and he was fired after that season. Richt had a losing season in 2010 and finised with 4 or 5 losses last year



Not sure why I am bothering to respond to this because of who wrote it, but here goes...


Those examples are pretty big apples to oranges comparisons. Everyone that knows anything about the game could see that Chizik's team that year just completely quit playing for him and there was no sign of it ever changing during his tenure. Of the things you could say about Richt's teams, he has never had a team just give up hope. He may have been out schemed in games here and there, but his teams as a whole show up and play for him.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86557 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:52 am to
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Chizik had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games


Chiz's 4 year stint:

09- won 8 games, but went 3-5 in SEC play
10- undefeated behind one of the 3-5 GOATs in league history and the OC who is currently the HC
11- won 8 games, lost the 3 biggest games on the schedule
12- 3-9

quote:

Richt had a losing season in 2010 and finised with 4 or 5 losses last year


Well we had 8 wins last year, so by your criteria that's no big deal. And when the sample size is 13 years instead of 4 you can pull more data, obviously.


My whole point was, Richt has consistently won 10 games so we know that a year like 2010 or 2013 are the exceptions, not the rule. With chiz, 2010 was certainly the exception, not the rule. For AU it was easy after 2012 to say "look, this just isn't going anywhere". There hasn't been any point where UGA could say the same thing to richt.
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