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re: Gene Stallings agrees with Pat Dye....sort of
Posted on 10/8/13 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/8/13 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
It's funny that everyone calls the fun-n-gun the spread. It was an ingenious use of route trees. Curl/flat or streak/flat with a weakside drag. The reads were easy and potent. It wasn't really a spread. it was a way to make a plethora of a quarterbacks capable of running the offense because the reads were easy. Great offense. The simple things are the best sometimes.
Courtesy of "therick711." Read the thread before you run your mouth.
Courtesy of "therick711." Read the thread before you run your mouth.
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
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Every time he went up against Florida.
That wasn't and isn't the "spread," even as loosely interpreted unless he traveled in time and played Urban Meyer. That also is neither here nor there.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 2:59 pm to NYCAuburn
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Did Dye say any person was qualified simply because they played and coached?
No. He said that a person is only qualified if they got their hands dirty. Ergo....again... Ricky Williams is qualified and Chris Fowler is not
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:05 pm to therick711
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That wasn't and isn't the "spread," even as loosely interpreted unless he traveled in time and played Urban Meyer. That also is neither here nor there.
There is more than one type of spread. Urban Meyer was not the inventor of it. When you spread the field with 4 and 5 wide receiver sets that is a spread offense.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:06 pm to RollTide1987
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There is more than one type of spread. Urban Meyer was not the inventor of it. When you spread the field with 4 and 5 wide receiver sets that is a spread offense.
There is more than one time for sure. Not every multiple set is spread. Florida loved to use some three wide receiver sets under center with a tightend, whose strain of spread do you suppose that was from?
The Urban Meyer reference was not that he invented it, just that he is the only coach that I know of that ran a "spread" type offense at Florida. This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:08 pm to therick711
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Florida loved to use some three wide receiver sets under center with a tightend, whose strain of spread do you suppose that was from?
They also loved to use some sets with 4 and 5 wide receivers with the QB under center. Any time you spread the field out with wide receivers, that is what we call the spread.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:09 pm to Snakebucket
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A couple of grumpy old. Racist, sexist, 19th century minds, part of what still makes the South such a laughing stock to the rest of the country
I bet this clown believes that men deserve to be treated poorly after all we bring that upon ourselves.
I'm also guessing you support the crap child support laws, divorce laws, etc..
They've brain washed the living shite out of you.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:09 pm to RollTide1987
That's like saying because spurrier ran an ace set where he split out his tackles and guards wide and ran a numbers game for a few plays a game, that he ran the swinging gate offense.
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Spurrier's offense at Florida was not a spread scheme. He used 4 and 5 wide receiver sets, but not all that often. A lot of the time there was a running back and a tight end at the same time, and he even ran quite a bit of I formation, especially early on. What was revolutionary about the Fun 'n Gun was passing out of traditionally run-oriented sets, not spreading the field.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:11 pm to YStar
Who is "they." 
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:15 pm to StopRobot
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No. He said that a person is only qualified if they got their hands dirty. Ergo....again... Ricky Williams is qualified and Chris Fowler is not
No he said a qualified person has certain qualifications, ergo someone who has played and coached. He did not say every person who played and coached was qualified, ie your example. there is a difference
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:16 pm to therick711
It was a spread offense.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:19 pm to RollTide1987
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It was a spread offense.
Yet, the OBC himself disagrees with you.
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What does he say he runs half of the time now? Be obstinate if you will, but the man who popularized the FnG and now uses the Spread agrees with me.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:20 pm to RollTide1987
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Did his old arse ever coach against the modern spread? Can he break that down and teach a D how to defend it? Some might say all he knows about football is three yards and a cloud of dust. The game has changed since he's been around. So should we dq him? There is ALWAYS an argument for why someone shouldn't be there.
FIFY. the point is still the same. The game has changed. He's not an expert at what's being run today but, in my book, that doesn't make him any less qualified. His insight/expertise is valuable. But so is SoS Rice's.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:24 pm to Beer Bryant
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Ridiculous. Makes as much sense as having football players judge gymnastics matches. Why not have Mike Tyson determine which history books 10th graders should use? If you're against that, you're racist.
didn't read the rest of the thread because it ended here.
sig worthy shite imo.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:33 pm to therick711
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Nick Saban recommended LSU hire Houston Nutt when he left at the end of the 2004 season.
In 2004, that wasn't an outrageous recommendation. No one had the benefit of knowing how bad Nutt would suck after that. His record up to that point was very good, two division titles, and he beat Saban two out of his first three games against him.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:36 pm to BamaGradinTn
Not outrageous at all to suggest a program one year removed from a national title hire a guy who just went 5-6 (3-5) to take over the reins. Sure. No one here was buying it. In fact, the best explanation is that Saban was doing his agent a favor.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:40 pm to 08Gatorbait
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At least the BCS used polls from people who follow football and computers that had equations to determine the best teams.
Theoretically, but rarely was this always the case. You can't tell me that east coast sportswriters stayed up late on Saturday nights to follow Pac-12 games. And there are numerous stories of coaches who had their SIDs or some other staffer fill in their ballot for them. Not to mention the fact that some of the computer rankings in the past have been downright laughable.
Look, there's obviously some bias about Rice because she's female. There's no other way really to explain all of the fuss now. For decades we've been having people who have no business doing so, according to this week's arguments, selecting national champions, All-Americans, and Heisman trophy winners, and it's been just fine. Now suddenly one of them is a woman.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:42 pm to CFBFAN1121
I just hope thus committee thinks long and hard before excluding a team that is in the top four in the polls.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 4:25 pm to CFBFAN1121
Coach Stalling has earned his opinion on this. I just don't want any committee with Alabama or Ole Miss fans on it.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 4:34 pm to therick711
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therick711
Gene Stallings agrees with Pat Dye....sort of
Not outrageous at all to suggest a program one year removed from a national title hire a guy who just went 5-6 (3-5) to take over the reins. Sure. No one here was buying it. In fact, the best explanation is that Saban was doing his agent a favor
And you're gonna tell us that a guy who just went 7-5 and 4-4 in an inferior conference really had that much better of a resume? A guy who had never won his division, compared to a guy who got to the championship game once and tied for first another time? A guy who was only 28-21 and 16-16 at his previous school, compared to a guy who was 53-33 and 29-27? No, you weren't buying it because you were too butthurt to buy any recommendation from the guy who was dumping you for something better.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 4:35 pm
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