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re: Fournette>Chubb
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:13 am to djsdawg
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:13 am to djsdawg
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Seem to remember Chubb going over 100 last season against Bama's D. I seem to remember laughing at LF the whole game against Bama's D. And UGA was awful on offense
Chubb didn't do anything against Bama's D either. His yards came on 1 80ish yard run at the very end of the game when it was way over.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:14 am to RB10
Before and after injury is the most fair comparison there is. The next most fair is common opponents. After that, fairness goes out the door. It's obvious why Lsu fans are not interested in either. As for the one you are interested in, Both were averaging over 8 yards per carry at the time of chubb's injury, so that's a split hair.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:17 am to TouchdownBama
I guess I can look forward to another 100 comparison threads between two near-indistinguishably good RB's for the next 6 months, because, you know, off-season. Yay.
I really need to stop coming here.
I really need to stop coming here.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:18 am to djsdawg
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Before and after injury is the most fair comparison there is
No, the most fair comparison is year by year and the second is career numbers (which isn't comparable in this instance because of Chubb's injury). Just like everyone else on the planet does it.
our ridiculously butthurt reaction to Fournette being better in 2015, while simultaneously wanting LSU fans to admit that Chubb is clearly better overall, is hypocritical and makes you look dumb.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:20 am to RB10
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In 2015, Fournette was better than Chubb.
Insofar as Chubb played less games, this is an accurate statement. All the wishing in the world doesn't change the fact that he blew out his knee at that god forsaken shithole in Knoxville. LF played a full season and looked great through most of it.
If you only evaluate the first 5 games of 2015, I'm not sure there's sufficient stats to say one was better than the other... to me they looked to both be on pace for special seasons. Common opponents works in our favor but I'm not a huge fan of trying to draw conclusions from that in most cases unless there is a larger sample size and a clear trend.
Either way, can this please be the last of these fricking threads? It's getting ridiculous.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:31 am to PurpleandGeauld
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Chubb didn't do anything against Bama's D either. His yards came on 1 80ish yard run at the very end of the game when it was way over.
You're right. We'll take away the 83 yard run and he ends up with 63.
Now we'll take away that 18 yard beast of a run Fournette had and he's at 13. That's 0.72ypc. Soooooo....you idiots should stop with the LF7 and start with LF.7. But on the bright side, no where to go but up.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:37 am to SneakyWaff1es
They both had bad games against Bama. The whole LF vs Chubb thing is dumb, because there will never be a definitive answer. Chubb was better as a frosh. LF was better as a soph (pre-injury to Chubb). This coming year you can't compare because Chubb won't be 100% (unless Chubb does better anyway).
Both great backs, though with different styles. If healthy should have great NFL careers.
Both great backs, though with different styles. If healthy should have great NFL careers.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:39 am to JuiceTerry
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YPC and common opponents. Somebody run those numbers and we should have a consensus for LSU people.
in '15
vs SCE...LF...20 for 158yds...7.9ypc...1td
Chubb...21 for 159...7.6ypc...2td's
vs UA... LF...19 for 31yds...1.6ypc...1td
Chubb...20 for 146...7.3ypc...1td
'15 totals vs common opponents
LF...39 for 189...4.9ypc...2td's
Chubb...41 for 305yds...7.4ypc...3td's
in'14
vs UK...LF...15 for 40yds...2.7ypc...1td
Chubb...13 for 170yds...13.1ypc...1td
vs UF...LF...27 for 140yds...5.2ypc...2td's
Chubb...21 for 156yds...7.1ypc...1td
vs Ark...LF...5 for 9yds...1.8ypc...0td
Chubb...30 for 202yds...6.7ypc...2td's
vs Aub...LF...10 for 42yds...4.2ypc...0td
Chubb...19 for 144yds...7.6ypc...2td's
'14 totals vs common opponents
LF...57 for 231yds...4.1ypc...3td's
Chubb...83 for 678yds...8.2ypc...6td's
totals for 6 games vs common opponents
LF...87 for 420yds...4.8ypc...5td's
Chubb...124 for 983yds...7.9ypc...9td's
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:51 am to dallasga6
Here comes the "LF was rushing against a stacked box" argument, and "LSU had no passing game" argument.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:11 am to RB10
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No, the most fair comparison is year by year and the second is career numbers (which isn't comparable in this instance because of Chubb's injury). Just like everyone else on the planet does it.
our ridiculously butthurt reaction to Fournette being better in 2015, while simultaneously wanting LSU fans to admit that Chubb is clearly better overall, is hypocritical and makes you look dumb.
This is the 2nd time you have resorted to a laughing emoticon in response to a reasonable point, so you are dangerously close to losing all credibility here.
No reasonable football fan would ignore the impact of the injury. The injury renders the 2015 and career comparisons meaningless, which you admit. The injury doesnt do that to the pre-injury comparison, which you also should admit.
Here are their 1st 18 games:
310 carries for 2292 yards
306 carries for 2056 yards
Here after the 1st 18 games:
1 carry for 2 yards
181 carries for 931 yards
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:17 am to djsdawg
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This is the 2nd time you have resorted to a laughing emoticon in response to a reasonable point, so you are dangerously close to losing all credibility here.
You don't have a reasonable point, hence the emoticons. No rational person, in the history of college football, compares players on 18 games over a season and a half, and you're only doing that because it fits your agenda.
You want everyone else to admit that Chubb is clearly better while ignoring the fact that he wasn't better, clearly or otherwise, in limited action in 2015. As I said before, it makes you come across as hypocritical and stupid.
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The injury renders the 2015 and career comparisons meaningless, which you admit. The injury doesnt do that to the pre-injury comparison, which you also should admit.
Dude, you're the one who included games from 2015 first. You can't be this dumb.....
Here are the facts:
1. Chubb was better in 2014.
2. Fournette was better in 2015, pre-injury included.
That's it. End of discussion.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:21 am to RB10
Unfortunately, all of the Chubb fan club is forgetting one very important fact.
One of these very talented backs plays against the somewhat weak SEC East, one of them plays in the pretty damn tough SEC West.
Fournette > Chubb.
One of these very talented backs plays against the somewhat weak SEC East, one of them plays in the pretty damn tough SEC West.
Fournette > Chubb.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:22 am to TimTheTiger
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Unfortunately, all of the Chubb fan club is forgetting one very important fact.
One of these very talented backs plays against the somewhat weak SEC East, one of them plays in the pretty damn tough SEC West.
Fournette > Chubb.
LSU fans like you are just as bad as the "Chubb fan club".
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:24 am to TimTheTiger
Don't like it? Don't say stupid shite then.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:25 am to RB10
Explain what's so stupid about what I said.
Edit: Nevermind, don't. I could not care less about your opinion. Thanks for reminding me why I hardly ever post. You're awesome, I'm not.
Edit: Nevermind, don't. I could not care less about your opinion. Thanks for reminding me why I hardly ever post. You're awesome, I'm not.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:27 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:25 am to TimTheTiger
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Explain what's so stupid about what I said.
Pretty much all of it. Do you need me to elaborate?
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:28 am to TimTheTiger
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See edit above, twatwaffle.
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Nevermind, don't. I could not care less about your opinion. Thanks for reminding me why I hardly ever post. You're awesome, I'm not.
If you want to come in and say stupid shite like you did, maybe you should avoid posting.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:28 am to TimTheTiger
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Unfortunately, all of the Chubb fan club is forgetting one very important fact.
One of these very talented backs plays against the somewhat weak SEC East, one of them plays in the pretty damn tough SEC West.
Fournette > Chubb.
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totals for 6 games vs common opponents
LF...87 for 420yds...4.8ypc...5td's
Chubb...124 for 983yds...7.9ypc...9td's
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