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Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:39 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:39 am to
True, saying "clearly better" makes more sense than "Not even close". Those 18 games told a story that only LSU fans choose to ignore.
Posted by Howies Hoodlums
Member since Sep 2015
26 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:46 am to
Lets also look at the injury argument. Melvin Gordon was completely healthy his senior year and had a monster year. And Todd Gurley was coming off ACL surgery, but who got drafted first, Gurley went ahead of Gordon, oh by the way Gurley ended up winning NFL offensive rookie of the year.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:50 am to
Gurley had a very different injury though. Don't think we will see the same chubb.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:51 am to
Measuring/Rating these 3 RBs is fun...but the real measure is the OL they run behind and how their OCs use them.

Likely all will be 1st Round NFL Picks...the drafting teams will be looking for "Fit" into theirs offenses.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12534 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 11:07 am to
OBJ
2015 New York Giants
15 games
96 catches
1,450 yards
15.1 avg/rec
96.7 avg/gm
87T long
13 TD


2014 New York Giants
12 games
91 catches
1,305 yards
14.3 avg/rec
108.8 avg/gm
80T long
12 TD

TOTAL
27 games
187 catches
2,755 yards
14.7 avg/rec
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32631 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:08 am to
quote:

Does him getting drafted higher give LSU a retroactive trophy or something? I never understood the potential NFL argument.
No, but if he goes that high clearly he wasn't a moron in deciding to go to LSU.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2569 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Nick just isn't in the same league as LF as far as size and strength


This is simply not true. LF maybe taller, but that's as far as it goes for the size argument. I would have to dig it up, but Chubb was also proven to be stronger in one of the previous threads on this argument.
Posted by DawgNation4
Member since Nov 2012
1023 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:43 am to
While Leonard Fournette couldn't get on the field as a freshman behind the likes of..... Nick Chubb rushed for 1,500 yrds sharing a backfield with Todd Gurley and Sony Michel

When both were healthy Chubb was clearly, yes clearly better. Fournette's rise was happening at the beginning of the year and then Chubb got hurt so we might never know.

My only question is, is the op an alter?
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123618 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:49 am to
quote:

When both were healthy Chubb was clearly, yes clearly better.


Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:25 am to
Seem to remember Chubb going over 100 last season against Bama's D. I seem to remember laughing at LF the whole game against Bama's D. And UGA was awful on offense.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

quote:
When both were healthy Chubb was clearly, yes clearly better.





Compare the first 18 games of their careers to see if he is wrong and you are right.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59643 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:43 am to
Chubbs knees are weaker than LSU passing game
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43813 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Compare the first 18 games of their careers to see if he is wrong and you are right.


Chubb was clearly better in 2014. Fournette was clearly better in 2015, and yes, that's even if you only count before Chubb got hurt.

This should be the end of the argument. When healthy, you're splitting hairs between the two.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:48 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:54 am to
Chubb averaged more yards per carry in 2015, so that doesn't actually make sense.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43813 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:57 am to
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Chubb averaged more yards per carry in 2015, so that doesn't actually make sense.


So you only include the first 5 games of 2015 when it works better for Chubb?

Through the first 5, which you're fine using for your 18 game argument, Fournette had almost 300 more yards, 5 more TDs, and a higher YPC than Chubb.

So, as I said, Fournette was clearly better in 2015, just as Chubb was clearly better in 2014.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123618 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:57 am to
Congratulations on avg more YPC on only 92 carries.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:59 am to
YPC and common opponents. Somebody run those numbers and we should have a consensus for LSU people.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

quote:
Chubb averaged more yards per carry in 2015, so that doesn't actually make sense.


So you only include the first 5 games of 2015 when it works better for Chubb?

Through the first 5, which you're fine using for your 18 game argument, Fournette had almost 300 more yards, 5 more TDs, and a higher YPC than Chubb.

So, as I said, Fournette was clearly better in 2015, just as Chubb was clearly better in 2014.


Chubb was clearly better before Injury, counting games from both 14 and 15, and fournette was clearly better after the injury. The before and after stats will blow LSU fans minds.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43813 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Chubb was clearly better before Injury, counting games from both 14 and 15, and fournette was clearly better after the injury. The before and after stats will blow LSU fans minds.


It doesn't really matter how you try to spin it. In 2015, Fournette was better than Chubb.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it untrue.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123618 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:09 am to
Clearly, bro!
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