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re: Fournette>Chubb

Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:29 am to
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

One of these very talented backs plays against the somewhat weak SEC East, one of them plays in the pretty damn tough SEC West.


I guess you failed to read a couple posts above comparing common opponents.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:31 am to
Fournette all day
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:31 am to
quote:

You don't have a reasonable point, hence the emoticons. No one, in the history of college football, compares players on 18 games over a season and a half, and you're only doing that because it fits your agenda.


Only folks interested in a fair and relevant comparison would compare as I have. Its the kind of stat that would be seen on ESPN and CBS during a telecast. Anyone who fails to see the fairness and relevance of a healthy comparison is being unreasonable, in this case evidenced by laughing emoticons. Not only are the numbers of games the same, the number of carries are almost exactly the same as well. Its about as close to apples to apples as we are ever gonna get. Ever heard of that saying?
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:34 am
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:31 am to
Except against Bama amirite?
Posted by TimTheTiger
Recently back to the EBR :)
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:33 am to
quote:

totals for 6 games vs common opponents

LF...87 for 420yds...4.8ypc...5td's
Chubb...124 for 983yds...7.9ypc...9td's


How many carries for each?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:33 am to
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How many carries for each?


quote:

LF...87 for 420yds...4.8ypc...5td's
Chubb...124 for 983yds...7.9ypc...9td's
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:35 am to
I'm hoping he meant for each game, but even then I still don't see where that could lead.

Edit: I guess maybe to deflect to the sharing of the ball, and the whole Les Miles variable.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Only folks interested in a fair and relevant comparison would compare as I have. Its the kind of stat that would be seen on ESPN and CBS during telecast. Anyone who fails to see the fairness and relevance of a healthy comparison is being unreasonable, evidenced by laughing emoticons. Not only are the numbers of games the same, the number of carries are almost exactly the same as well. Its about as close to apples to apples as we are ever gonna get. Ever heard of that saying?



Whatever you say baw. Obviously, the way everyone else does things is just plain wrong. Your way is the only way.
Posted by TimTheTiger
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:36 am to
I suppose you could also break it down with number of touches that other RBs on the team got against common opponents, but then that'd really be splitting hairs.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2569 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:37 am to
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I suppose you could also break it down with number of touches that other RBs on the team got against common opponents, but then that'd really be splitting hairs.


That won't change the YPC stat, but keep reaching.
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Whatever you say baw. Obviously, the way everyone else does things is just plain wrong. Your way is the only way.



Posted by TimTheTiger
Recently back to the EBR :)
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:39 am to
Where am I reaching? Which one will be drafted higher in the NFL if things keep on pace with the way they are now? Isn't that the measure of a college players worth?
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:39 am to
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Not everyone wants to play for Alabama, believe it or not.

Wrong. Not everyone CAN play at Alabama. Or they're scared of competition.
But everyone wants to play at Bama. Don't kid yourself.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:40 am
Posted by TimTheTiger
Recently back to the EBR :)
Member since Jan 2009
1257 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:41 am to
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Wrong. Not everyone CAN play at Alabama. Or they're scared of competition.
But everyone wants to play at Bama. Don't kid yourself.


So said player goes to another team that plays against Alabama, but said player is scared of competition? Also, said player wouldn't have been a take at Alabama?

Right.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Wrong. Not everyone CAN play at Alabama. Or they're scared of competition.
But everyone wants to play at Bama. Don't kid yourself.

this frickin guy
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2569 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Where am I reaching?


First you stated LF had a tougher row to hoe due to playing in the West. That was debunked with the common opponents stats. Then you try to throw in "shared carries" as a reason LF's stats weren't as good. That's reaching.

quote:

Which one will be drafted higher in the NFL


No one really knows this.

quote:

if things keep on pace with the way they are now?


All depends on Chubb's recovery. Hope he comes back strong, but we'll have to wait and see.

quote:

Isn't that the measure of a college players worth?

Not really, been some low round draft picks that turned out to be great, and there's been some high round draft picks that were duds...Jamarcus Russell ring a bell.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2569 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Wrong. Not everyone CAN play at Alabama. Or they're scared of competition. But everyone wants to play at Bama. Don't kid yourself.


No
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:46 am to
I'm one of maybe 10 LSU fans I've seen on this site say Chubb was better than Fournette in 2014. Meanwhile, I've seen maybe 3 UGA fans say Fournette was better than Chubb in limited action in 2015.

At this point, I'm also probably one of only 5 LSU/UGA posters here who will admit that if I had to give up my RB, and take the other, I'd be perfectly fine with it because they are 1a. and 1a-a, when Chubb is healthy.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Whatever you say baw. Obviously, the way everyone else does things is just plain wrong. Your way is the only way.


Since it's the kind of stat that would be seen on ESPN and CBS during a telecast, I am obviously not the only person interested in a fair and relevant comparison as you imply. What a ridiculous assertion that was on your part.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:47 am to
I would take Chubb. Better conference player
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