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re: F. King Alexander on the LSU Head Coaching Situation
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:58 pm to RB10
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:58 pm to RB10
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That's not calling them politically savvy, that's calling them dumb.
I will grant that the way he painted it ("they fail to understand that distinction") was inarticulate.
But it's obvious the point he was trying to make if you read the whole article.
Perhaps if some legislators speak out on this topic we can have the other side of the story - which will highly likely echo the talking point that it was bad optics and bad politics.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:05 pm
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:58 pm to Tigerlaff
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LOL I lived through 1/9. This is nothing.
LOL I lived through Curley Hallman.
This is nothing.
Your turn.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:07 pm to BrerTiger
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But it's obvious the point he was trying to make if you read the whole article.
Yes it was. He wants it to be thought that this was a fiscally responsible play by the university. Otherwise it would become very difficult to continue his stance on the dire straits of LSU's funding situation..
I get why he didn't want the change, and I get why he came out and said what he did. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it, which I clearly don't.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:11 pm to RB10
quote:His job is to secure funds for the university first and foremost. The way he went about that task in the Spring was ridiculous.
To get extra funding for the university. He postured like this was some big sacrifice the university made in order to save the funds. That's not the case at all.
Using scare tactics and the doom 'n gloom scenario in the public in a plea to the obtain gov't funds.
There was no way he could back track now to the tune of +$20mm just to fire one of the programs most successful coaches even if it was private funds.
He'd never be able to petition the legislature in the future for funds for academics, it would fall on deaf ears. They'd say screw you Alexander - go back to your big money men and get them to ante up for academics.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:16 pm to RB10
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He wants it to be thought that this was a fiscally responsible play by the university.
Sort of.
More like if LSU spent all that money to fire Miles it would be perceived by many as fiscally hypocritical after he painted such a dire picture of the financial situation.
Even though (as he says) not one penny would come from the academic side of the house.
In politics, perception is everything.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:16 pm to RB10
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What's to keep Les from basically trying to screw LSU at this point?
quote:Oh, there are some he'd "like to meet in a back alley....but he's not that kind of guy."
Him being a decent person. He doesn't come across as vindictive.
Is Les like Tubberville, can he forgive and forget?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:17 pm to RB10
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The public at large really doesn’t differentiate where the money comes from,” he says. “No matter how you explain it, it’s still a $15 million to $25 million decision that needs to be factored into the overall equation.”
Certainly seems to have a lot of contempt for the people of this state, doesn't he?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:18 pm to RT1941
They're already telling him to kick rocks. The state, as a whole, is having monetary issues. The university is certainly not immune to those effects, but it's not nearly as bad as he tries to make it seem.
They aren't buying into his proposals and they aren't going to moving forward. Firing Miles and paying the buyout wasn't going to affect their stance.
They aren't buying into his proposals and they aren't going to moving forward. Firing Miles and paying the buyout wasn't going to affect their stance.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:18 pm to RB10
Les has one more year to prove to LSU fans and the country he can win.
If not, LSU will be in a nasty downward spiral.
If not, LSU will be in a nasty downward spiral.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:18 pm to BrerTiger
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Even though (as he says) not one penny would come from the academic side of the house. In politics, perception is everything.
Everybody in the state knows that the Athletic Department is self-sustaining, and that as a matter of fact it actually donates money to the University.
Everybody.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:19 pm to RT1941
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Using scare tactics and the doom 'n gloom scenario in the public in a plea to the obtain gov't funds.
While I might be inclined to agree with you, Bobby Jindal's budget plan proposed what The Atlantic called "the biggest legislative downsizing ever faced by higher education in the U.S."
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So, if we wish to blame someone, I would start with Bobby Jindal's policies re: taxes and budgeting.
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Republican Governor Bobby Jindal's new budget plan proposes offsetting a $1.6 billion funding shortfall—caused in part by a decline in oil revenues—largely through budget cuts to higher ed. According to school officials, the cuts could add up to $600 million total, or 82 percent of the state's funding for its colleges and universities, for the fiscal year that begins this July. It would amount to the biggest legislative downsizing ever faced by higher education in the U.S.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:20 pm to RB10
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They aren't buying into his proposals and they aren't going to moving forward
Didn't they want to reduce LSU's funding by 10-15 million last session, and didn't he convince them not to?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:21 pm to BrerTiger
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In politics, perception is everything
Which is why I don't want politics anywhere near LSU athletics. It's that much worse that's is Louisiana politics, which is a whole different animal.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:22 pm to Old Sarge
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Didn't they want to reduce LSU's funding by 10-15 million last session, and didn't he convince them not to?
He should be able to keep them from taking more than they already have. He will not be able to convince them to start giving what they have already taken back.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:29 pm to RB10
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Which is why I don't want politics anywhere near LSU athletics.
Good luck with that.
By the way, LSU athletics and LSU wouldn't be what it is today without politics.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:33 pm to RB10
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To get extra funding for the university.
Okay good, because that's his job.
You made it seem like some nefarious ulterior motive before.
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He postured like this was some big sacrifice the university made in order to save the funds.
I didn't really see it like that. In his defense, I really can't imagine what it would be like to be the president of a major university that was run by the football team. I know to a lot of people on this board, that seems normal, but to any rational observer, it's absurd.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I didn't really see it like that. In his defense, I really can't imagine what it would be like to be the president of a major university that was run by the football team. I know to a lot of people on this board, that seems normal, but to any rational observer, it's absurd.
I hear you.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:38 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I didn't really see it like that. In his defense, I really can't imagine what it would be like to be the president of a major university that was run by the football team. I know to a lot of people on this board, that seems normal, but to any rational observer, it's absurd.
Like I said before, I understand why he did not want the change, and you're right, it is a tough position to be in. However, like it or not, LSU football is the engine of the university right now. Doing what's best for the football program will only help the university in the long run.
I say this as someone who didn't want Miles fired, but going toe to toe with the major boosters and their enormous egos can't be good for him, or the university.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:42 pm to RB10
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LSU football is the engine of the university right now
Really? You don't think the students would be attending the university if LSU football sucked or didn't exist at all?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:46 pm to Old Sarge
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Really? You don't think the students would be attending the university if LSU football sucked or didn't exist at all?
I think the enrollment numbers would drop. Without question.
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