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re: F. King Alexander on the LSU Head Coaching Situation
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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LSU still probably wouldn't have paid a dime on this, but I bet a significant portion of this "extra" money on the top specifically to get rid of Les evaporated in the days prior to the ATM game.
If LSU didn't have to pay, which it clearly says they didn't in the article, then Alexander had no business blowing the deal up.
It was not his place since it was not going to be University funds. It was the AD and the TAF's decision, at that point.
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:14 pm to RB10
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“After the type of budget battle we went through this past spring we certainly do not need to be throwing tens of millions of dollars around under certain circumstances,” he says. “We don’t need to go into the next legislative session with a black eye that we’re throwing tens of millions of dollars around on issues that aren’t associated with academic progress.”
“The public at large really doesn’t differentiate where the money comes from,” he says. “No matter how you explain it, it’s still a $15 million to $25 million decision that needs to be factored into the overall equation.”
Yup. I figured it was bad optics.
So in the end, Bobby Jindal saved Les Miles.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:15 pm to RB10
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No university funds would have been used to buy out Miles’ contract. However, Alexander, who has been a tireless advocate of increased state support for higher education, says many in the general public—and even the Legislature—fail to understand that distinction.
He basically called the general public, as well as the state legislature, stupid.
That's not how a University president should be speaking, regardless of the situation. Especially one that's practically begging the legislature to grant him more funding.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:15 pm to RB10
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If LSU didn't have to pay, which it clearly says they didn't in the article, then Alexander had no business blowing the deal up.
Perhaps LSU wouldn't have to pay, but Alleva/TAF went to LSU to see if the university would absorb some of the blow.
That's assuming my posts earlier were correct about TAF not getting the full 15-25 million in excess of their current donations.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:17 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That's assuming my posts earlier were correct about TAF not getting the full 15-25 million in excess of their current donations.
It says no university funds were going to be used, so I'm going to have to assume you're wrong here. There's not even a whisper that TAF funding was a problem.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:18 pm to RB10
You are so full of dumbass in this thread. You can't possibly be this poor at understanding things.
Your hypersensitivity is preventing you from understanding context, and make the direct connection between the quotes in the article and my statement.
Your attacks on me are unwarranted and childish.
Your hypersensitivity is preventing you from understanding context, and make the direct connection between the quotes in the article and my statement.
Your attacks on me are unwarranted and childish.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:18 pm to RB10
quote:I agree, and I said so when he was acting like a damn drama queen in the Spring. He spouted off all sorts of dismal crap to any reporter that would give him the time of day. He had folks thinking LSU was ready cancel classes and shut the doors.
He basically called the general public, as well as the state legislature, stupid. That's not how a University president should be speaking, regardless of the situation. Especially one that's practically begging the legislature to grant him more funding.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:19 pm to Swagga
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You insult the public by saying they're essentially too stupid to understand why you made a decision.
This is the same public that thinks the only things worthwhile about Louisiana State University are the Engineering school, the business school and the football team.
Sometimes the baseball team.
This is also the same public that would rather not invest in primary and secondary education even though their state is 2nd to last in literacy and math skills.
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree that they're too stupid.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:19 pm to RB10
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It was purely politicking by F. King. This was never about what was right or wrong for the football program for him.
There are other reasons it didn't happen.
The number one reason being Jimbo wasn't coming.
Notice has been served to Miles. It was ugly and unprofessional. But notice did need to be served.
The problem we have now is that the unprofessional manner in which this was handled (leaks galore) will give any future candidates pause. It may well have been the reason why Jimbo bailed. We may never know.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:20 pm to Old Sarge
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You are so full of dumbass in this thread. You can't possibly be this poor at understanding things.
I actually understand things just fine. You're the one that made one ignorant statement after another in this thread.
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Your hypersensitivity is preventing you from understanding context, and make the direct connection between the quotes in the article and my statement.
Incorrect. You have a clear lack of understanding of the situation.
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Your attacks on me are unwarranted and childish.
Maybe. Your comments were ignorant and unnecessary. Of that much we are sure.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:21 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree that they're too stupid.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:22 pm to RB10
My comments were directly drawn from the article you linked
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:23 pm to RB10
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It says no university funds were going to be used, so I'm going to have to assume you're wrong here. There's not even a whisper that TAF funding was a problem.
Obviously I have no proof, nor do I claim to.
Irrational deals like this fall through all the time when the party paying a shite TON of money for something of lesser/equal value to what they currently have come to their senses.
It's one thing to say "Hey guys, we're willing to pay the 15-25 million" and it's another thing to hand over the checks.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:23 pm to Old Sarge
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My comments were directly drawn from the article you linked
And your premise was uninformed.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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It's one thing to say "Hey guys, we're willing to pay the 15-25 million" and it's another thing to hand over the checks.
I get that, but with all the "sources" that have leaked info throughout this whole ordeal we will hear something about it.
Until we do, if it happens, I'm going to stick with the notion that Alexander is a snake and used this to further his own agenda.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:That's a lot of money. Even if Alleva started passing the hat after the Bama game, that's impressive to get that kind of money in such a short time.
It's one thing to say "Hey guys, we're willing to pay the 15-25 million" and it's another thing to hand over the checks.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:31 pm to RB10
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I'm going to stick with the notion that Alexander is a snake and used this to further his own agenda.
His agenda is to not have the state cut any portion of LSU's funding. Tell me what agenda is more important than that?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:32 pm to RT1941
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That's a lot of money. Even if Alleva started passing the hat after the Bama game, that's impressive to get that kind of money in such a short time.
Rumor is the big wig boosters really wanted Miles gone, so they would have come up with the funds.
Not to mention donations like that are tax write offs for them.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:33 pm to Old Sarge
What a croc of shite this guy is. The buyout would have been covered through PERSONAL donations yet he's worried about optic for the crooks running our state. Just another day in Louisiana politics
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:34 pm to Old Sarge
except that none of the money in this situation would be coming from/going to the academic side. The president understood this as he says the public doesn't differentiate but fact of the matter is there IS a difference.
he didn't just say "we didn't do this b/c it would look bad"....what he really just said was "we didn't do it b/c the public is so freaking stupid they cant understand that this money would never under any instance have gone to the academic side"...
he didn't just say "we didn't do this b/c it would look bad"....what he really just said was "we didn't do it b/c the public is so freaking stupid they cant understand that this money would never under any instance have gone to the academic side"...
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