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re: ESPN The Magazine predicts Bert to finish last in the west

Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:01 am to
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:01 am to
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If we finish last but still end up with 6 wins and a bowl victory then he will be ok


I think you're probably right there but it would be a bitter pill to swallow and make for an extra excruciatingly long offseason. Please be better, please be better...
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:02 am to
State has been predicted every single year to finish last in the west for seriously 7 years. It has yet to happen. If it ever happens all you frickers will be like "I told you so" but forget you were 1-8 in your prediction. Last time Arkansas beat us Obama had barely warmed up his chair
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:02 am to
Nah. They went 8-5 last year, losing at least 2 OOC games they should have won. If they win those, they go 10-3.

Arkansas is a team that will progress as the season goes along, they just have to avoid the early letdowns. They should be 5-0 before that Alabama game. I really think 9 wins is probable for them, so long as their QB is decent.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37900 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:05 am to
Yeah 6th Round picks don't just grow on trees
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:07 am to
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Replacing one of the best SEC QB's ever

Come on now
Posted by SeauxLeauxHeaux
Member since Mar 2014
528 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:07 am to
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Brandon Allen
quote:

Manziel and Tebow


One of these is not like the other
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:08 am to
Agreed Manziel is a drug addicted weasel whilst the other two seem like pretty super solid dudes.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:09 am to
I don't know if they will finish last. I have a hard time seeing anybody but A&M finishing last
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73553 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:11 am to
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don't know if they will finish last. I have a hard time seeing anybody but A&M finishing last



Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
3411 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:12 am to
Geez this thread is sad.. A bunch of fans of teams that haven't won the SEC in their existence arguing about who's finishing last this year.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:14 am to
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Come on now


I'm not putting him in the top 5, 10, or even 20. But it's safe to say he's in the top 5-10% of all SEC QB's who have ever started at least 12 games. Therefore, not outrageous to say he's one of the "best SEC QB's ever."

Compare him to these top pocket passing QB's over the last decade. Bolded stats indicate best of the bunch and underlined stats indicate worst of the bunch:

quote:

Aaron Murray (JR) - 3,893 passing yards, 64.5 cmp%, 36 TD, 10 INT

Zach Mettenberger (SR) - 3,082 passing yards, 64.9 cmp%, 22 TD, 8 INT

Rex Grossman (SOPH) - 3,896 passing yards, 65.6 cmp%, 34 TD, 12 INT

AJ McCarron (SR) - 3,063 passing yards, 67.3 cmp%. 28 TD, 7 INT

JaMarcus Russell (JR) - 3,129 passing yards, 67.8 cmp%, 28 TD, 8 INT

Brandon Allen (SR ) - 3,125 passing yards, 65.1 cmp%, 29 TD, 7 INT

Ryan Mallett (SR) - 3,869 passing yards, 64.7 cmp%, 32 TD, 12 INT

Matt Stafford (JR) - 3,459 passing yards, 61.4 cmp%, 25 TD, 10 INT

Eli Manning (SR ) - 3,600 passing yards, 62.4 cmp%, 29 TD, 10 INT

Tyler Bray (JR) - 3,612 passing yards, 59.4 cmp%, 34 TD, 12 INT

Andre Woodson (SR) - 3,709 passing yards, 63.1 cmp%, 40 TD, 11 INT
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64571 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:17 am to
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Thanks for reminding me. AND he went into Tiger Stadium on a SATURDAY NIGHT and embarrassed LSU.

so did Jevan Snead. What's your point?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64571 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:19 am to
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Compare him to these top pocket passing QB's over the last decade. Bolded stats indicate best of the bunch and underlined stats indicate worst of the bunch:

maybe 3 of those guys could be in the discussion as being among the greatest in SEC history. (Murray, Manning, Stafford)
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:20 am to
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herefore, not outrageous to say he's one of the "best SEC QB's ever."

Yes, it's outrageous. He was a very solid QB and arguably one of the best in the league last season.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8493 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:21 am to
Brandon Allen had one great season. Doesn't even come close to being the best ever though.

Too quickly you forget how bad he was the first 2 years.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55284 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:22 am to
They lost their very best players. I don't see how they can do better than 8-4. That's the ceiling. But it's not all on Bret, it's a rebuilding year. They should definitely keep him around for 17, they should be solid again then.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:22 am to
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and arguably one of the best in the league last season.



Arguably one of the best in the league? Nothing to argue when he has the top QBR in the entire nation.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:23 am to
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Bert to finish last in the west



someone has to. But I'd say MSU first but who knows, it's the SEC
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:24 am to
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Yeah 6th Round picks don't just grow on trees


A lot of people believe Tebow is the best SEC QB ever (he probably is), but he didn't have much of an NFL career. What does that have to do with his SEC career?
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 9:27 am
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:26 am to
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top QBR

I'd ask you if you understood this stat doesn't mean everything, but clearly you don't.
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