re: Eric Berry shouldn't be 1st Team All-SEC

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If you actually take the time to read what I posted, I said he deserved it based of a mixture of great stats(which he DOES have), leadership(which he has more of), and off the field(Tebow = Saint, Mallett = DUI)

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You just eliminated Brandon Spikes with your odd logic. I could think of a few more if you like...

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But in 3 weeks you will hear about it from every Hog fan, ESPN, and media out let out there when the Tebow love-fest robs the SEC's best QB of a deserved honor.

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Mallett has struggled against every good defense he's faced. If there's consistent pressure, he completes well below 50%. Tebow doesn't have huge numbers, but he hasn't struggled against great defenses. He really only had one bad game,and that was throwing two picks against Miss. State.

It is pure and simple.

Ole Miss fans and SEC in general want TO NOT GIVE it to Mallett, instead of wanting TO GIVE it to Tebow. If you have to pull subjective things that have little to do with the QB position alone (W/L record [win and lose as a team, Florida's top 5 defense really helps Tebow here, although Mallett still has better number], Leadership, etc)

This isnt the All-SEC Leadership award. It is the All-SEC QB Award. And it "should" be given the the QB who has produced the best in league (overall, not just passing). In this case so far, Mallett is owning Tebow in just about every QB category, and even for those who want to bring in rushing TDs and Total Yards...Mallett is still ahead of Tebow right now.

Of course Tebow will probably have more TDs/ Total yards when season is over because of the extra game played.

Arkansas fans just need to be quiet, realizing we have the best QB in the league (in terms of on-field production this year), and we will be glad to have him another year.

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Mallett has struggled against every good defense he's faced. If there's consistent pressure, he completes well below 50%. Tebow doesn't have huge numbers, but he hasn't struggled against great defenses. He really only had one bad game,and that was throwing two picks against Miss. State.

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1) What QB doesn't have less numbers against good defenses?

2) Tebow was pretty bad in the Arkansas game. Arkansas has the 97th ranked defense. Not so much in pass yards (he had one 70+ yard bomb), but in terms of getting sacked 6 times and turning the ball over.

I think we need to compare the teams against similar competition...maybe that can show part of the story?

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Ole Miss fans

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Wow. Obsess much? Maybe you should read through the whole thread. Thought I saw other posters saying that Timmy should win it too.

Florida succeeds or doesn't according to one person's play. That's Tim Tebow. That's why he is better. All the intangible things of being a great college QB and leader...

For the record I hate the Tebow knob slobbing too... but credit is due where credit is due.

What I have gathered from this thread:

-When Mallett has a bad game/bad numbers, it is his fault.

-When Tebow has mulitple bad games, the team sucks.

-Team stats (W/L record, total defense, etc) are only attributable to one person, the QB. God forbid Florida's defense save them in a game or two....

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Actual on-field play doesn't count, only his overall total numbers do.

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I hope you're kidding. Why would people vote for Mallett, when the only times he's been on regional or national television, and was visible to voters, he struggles pretty bad?

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Still doesn't matter, Mallett has better numbers.

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So, purely putting up numbers, where the majority came against bad teams, is more important than winning and doing it consistently. Again, Tebow might not have ungodly number, but I think I might want a warrior leading a final drive for a title for me. I think that's what defines a all-conference QB.

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Florida succeeds or doesn't according to one person's play. That's Tim Tebow. That's why he is better. All the intangible things of being a great college QB and leader...

For the record I hate the Tebow knob slobbing too... but credit is due where credit is due.

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That is a crock of shite. If Tebow had Arkansas' defense, people would be singing a different story. Florida is scoring like 33 points a game (Much less than that in non-cupcake games). If Florida's defense gave up 30+ points a game like us, i doubt Tebow could save them everytime.

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I hope you're kidding.

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I was hoping you could detect the laid on thick sarcasm.