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re: Don't look now, but Danny Etling is top 10 QBR.

Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Swm323
Pace,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1360 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:22 am to
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You do know what the term "common opponents" means. Right? Also said with EdO as HC. So those two statements eliminates bama and auburn.

LSU VS ole miss 515 yards
bama vs ole miss 492 yards

LSU vs ark 547 yards
bama vs ark 517 yards

LSU vs A&M 622 yards
bama vs A&M 451 yards

LSU vs UF 423 yards
bama vs UF 372 yards

So yes LSU's "O" performed damn well against those same crappy defenses bama faced as well.

Also LSU's "D" held two of them to fewer yards and points than bama's "D".


Do these stats take turnovers into account? Do they take defensive TDs into account? Both of those could affect total yardage.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:29 am to
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Do these stats take turnovers into account? Do they take defensive TDs into account? Both of those could affect total yardage.



IF it were just one game we were comparing maybe, but that list is called a "trend" brother.

LSU's O isn't a world beater, but we sure as frick don't suck.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8622 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:33 am to
I'm kind of tired of the "look our qb doesn't suck" threads. Give Danny time to build his stats first. Its week 3.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:36 am to
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Pop the film in against defenses that can rush and get back to me.


Is this where we pretend that Hurts has been something other than a liability throwing the football against good defenses?

Good thing he can run like a deer
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:47 am to
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LSU's O isn't a world beater, but we sure as frick don't suck.


It didn't suck at all last year. But it was very much dependent on the run game, which is why there were such wild swings between games against Missouri, Ole Miss and Texas A&M and games against Alabama, Auburn and Florida.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:47 am to
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Is this where we pretend that Hurts has been something other than a liability throwing the football against good defenses?


Anybody pretending otherwise?

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Good thing he can run like a deer


Yes it is.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:49 am to
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It didn't suck at all last year. But it was very much dependent on the run game, which is why there were such wild swings between games against Missouri, Ole Miss and Texas A&M and games against Alabama, Auburn and Florida.


Well if you watch our play calling vs pasties last year vs this year you would notice the difference. If you say there is none, then you don't know what you are looking at.

None of us expect to go and drop 600 yards on a Bama D, but we have the talent and play calling these last few years for us has been terrible.

I wouldn't even be mad if we lost games and we made half decent play calls, but Miles was hell FKING bent on running the ball right up the middle when everyone on the planet knew it.


This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:55 am to
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And 6 rushes for -15 yards and 0 TDs. 77 Total Yards.

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And Hurts was 10/19 107yrds, 1 INT


And 20 rushes for 114 yards and 1 TD. 221 Total Yards.


Exactly...

So the narrative that Etling couldn't throw for shite fits Hurts as well.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:57 am to
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Well if you watch our play calling vs pasties last year vs this year you would notice the difference. If you say there is none, then you don't know what you are looking at.


I can guarantee you I never said that. I don't think I ever brought up coaching. I think Canada is very solid and LSU's offense will be more consistent and as good as their personnel allows against good defenses this year.

I'm not sure their QB/OL combination will allow a TON more, but Canada will scheme together the best combination possible (unlike past years).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:58 am to
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So the narrative that Etling couldn't throw for shite fits Hurts as well.


If Hurts couldn't run he certainly would not be our QB. And definitely wouldn't have been last season.

Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:58 am to
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I'm not sure their QB/OL combination will allow a TON more, but Canada will scheme together the best combination possible (unlike past years).


Thats true and all I hope for. In the end, Etling is nothing more than a game manager, which is fine, for now. The real test is Myles, an elite recruit, and how our staff develops these recruits. Something we have not done in a very long time.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47859 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:06 am to
That's because the entire world outside of inbredland knows Jalen Hurts throws the ball about as accurately as Tim Tebow right handed.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:11 am to
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That's because the entire world outside of inbredland knows Jalen Hurts throws the ball about as accurately as Tim Tebow right handed.


So, roughly as well as Danny Etling? Plus he runs like a gazelle?

Got it.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:12 am to
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That's because the entire world outside of inbredland knows Jalen Hurts throws the ball about as accurately as Tim Tebow right handed.




There seems to be this strange narrative that Bama fans think Hurts is a good passer. Where is that coming from, we saw numerous threads this off season with Bama fans hoping he doesn't start. Saying the incoming true freshman will take the job by the end of the year. Even the "pro-hurts" crowd will admit he isn't a great passer.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:14 am to
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There seems to be this strange narrative that Bama fans think Hurts is a good passer. Where is that coming from, we saw numerous threads this off season with Bama fans hoping he doesn't start. Saying the incoming true freshman will take the job by the end of the year. Even the "pro-hurts" crowd will admit he isn't a great passer.


Nah, ignore the 50 page threads on the Bama board fighting about whether Hurts was (a) never going to be a good passer or (b) he MIGHT could be a competent passer if he develops. There wasn't even a (c) he's already a good passer option there.

Posted by theoracle1
Member since Sep 2017
408 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:15 am to
The difference is Auburn still has Sean White in reserve. He was suspended for the first two games, but he is coming back this week.

Sean White had a far better game against LSU's defense than Eitling had against Auburn last year. He literally doubled Eitling in yardage 234 to 118.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:16 am to
shite, I actually thought overall Bama fans were underrating him this off season but I understand most of that is how the season ended.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:17 am to
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shite, I actually thought overall Bama fans were underrating him this off season but I understand most of that is how the season ended.


I was firmly in the "freshman make their biggest jump after year 1 let's wait and see" camp, and I'm still in that camp. I was literally probably the most positive person on our board re: him too. Well, besides Pow Hound.

But hey, narratives are fun.
Posted by Swm323
Pace,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1360 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:39 am to
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IF it were just one game we were comparing maybe, but that list is called a "trend" brother.

LSU's O isn't a world beater, but we sure as frick don't suck.


Not saying you do. What I am saying is that in some of the games listed Alabama had defensive TDs and blocked punts/special teams scores. Those directly affect offensive yardage output.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:51 am to
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Sorry

Sorry for what exactly? Like anyone gives a frick about what a complete moron on tigerdroppings, who apparently doesn't understand that being mobile isn't a quality that changes based on the strength of your opponent, thinks about Etling. Sorry that you apparently think that your worthless opinion changes reality
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