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re: Do you think Derrick Henry regrets going to Bama now that LF was drafted 4th overall?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:08 pm to texag7
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:08 pm to texag7
So about half of yards came against about half of the teams he played?
You know, no matter how good you are, its hard to average 200 yards against SEC defenses.
Lf was clearly a generational talent. If you cant see that, you just dont know football. Period. He wasnt the 4th pick of the draft for no reason
You know, no matter how good you are, its hard to average 200 yards against SEC defenses.
Lf was clearly a generational talent. If you cant see that, you just dont know football. Period. He wasnt the 4th pick of the draft for no reason
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:10 pm to Peepdip
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So about half of yards came against about half of the teams he played?
No. Majority of his yards came in 5 games (4 non-conference)
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:11 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:I don't follow recruiting closely at all. I'll take your word on that. Still has to sting to know he produced so much more than LF with the rushing record and the SEC and NC Titles in his draft year.
Bama was essentially the only school who was truly recruiting DH as a running back. Everyone else wanted him as an "athlete," with most trying to talk him into playing linebacker.
Eddie George was really tall and still got picked 14th.
Ron Dayne was fat and still got picked 11th.
I could name all the RB's since 1968 who won the Heisman and they all got drafted in the 1st rd. All sizes, shapes and body types. My point being that something is really really wrong with the way Saban is treating his RB's. LF and his family decided to trust LSU with Frank and Les. He doesn't regret that decision today. It had to sting DH to see LF go so much higher than him.
I just wonder if he doesn't regret that decision just a little.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:12 pm to texag7
5 games is almost half of the season.
What bad games did he have besides the Alabama games?
There are so many things you can make fun of LSU for lately. Leonard fricking Fournette is not one of them. Any un-biased fan can see that he has pro bowl potential. Especially anyone that saw him against A&M
What bad games did he have besides the Alabama games?
There are so many things you can make fun of LSU for lately. Leonard fricking Fournette is not one of them. Any un-biased fan can see that he has pro bowl potential. Especially anyone that saw him against A&M
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:13 pm to BlackCloud
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My point being that something is really really wrong with the way Saban is treating his RB's.
Wonder how he keeps getting stud after stud?
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LF and his family decided to trust LSU with Frank and Les.
He was going to LSU no matter what.
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It had to sting DH to see LF go so much higher than him.
I doubt it did one bit. You just want that to be the case.
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I just wonder if he doesn't regret that decision just a little.
I bet it didn't cross his mind.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:19 pm to BlackCloud
Henry gets to split time with Murray and has one of the bettwr young QBs in the NFL.
LF7 has to learn how to be a shotgun spread back with a bust at QB.
LF7 has to learn how to be a shotgun spread back with a bust at QB.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:23 pm to montanagator
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Henry gets to split time with Murray and has one of the bettwr young QBs in the NFL.
LF7 has to learn how to be a shotgun spread back with a bust at QB.
Yeah, I'm actually worried about that. I do have confidence in Tom Coughlin as it relates to understanding what it will take to commit to a power running game (even from the spread). LF is not a scat back. He is a one cut power RB with breakaway speed.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:23 pm to BlackCloud
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Eddie George was really tall and still got picked 14th.
Ron Dayne was fat and still got picked 11th.
Completely different era of NFL football, wouldn't you agree?
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My point being that something is really really wrong with the way Saban is treating his RB's.
Myth.
Leonard Fournette: 616 attempts in 32 games (19.25 per game)
Derrick Henry: 602 attempts in 39 games (15.44 per game)
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:24 pm to MykTide
Gumps can't catch on that it was a gump that started a thread recently that was titled "do you think LF7 regrets going to LSU?"
Gumps are gumps and will be gumps....
Now.....go ahead and post how many times alabama beat LSU ....
Stupid is as stupid does....
I think that's what Forest said!
Gumps are gumps and will be gumps....
Now.....go ahead and post how many times alabama beat LSU ....
Stupid is as stupid does....
I think that's what Forest said!
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:24 pm to GulfCoast LSU Fan
For the hype he had he failed to live up to it. He was on the pre season Heisman list as a true freshman. He was supposed to win all kind of awards and lead his team to a national championship and he did neither of those.... I would say he is a failure
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:29 pm to Rohan Gravy
What are you going on about, little corndog?
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Now.....go ahead and post how many times alabama beat LSU ....
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:30 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Completely different era of NFL football, wouldn't you agree?
Yes and no. Eddie George would be a great back today.
Ron Dayne would be a bust today. Different era, same results.
quote:Wrong. The Att are not what has folks in the NFL concerned. It's the practices that players like Jonathan Allen say are worse than games. It's the helicopter coaching that Eddie Lacy alluded to when he said that he didn't know how to be a pro when he got to the NFL because everything was taken care of at bama. It's having Cochran screaming in your face every day at 5am in the weight room.
Myth.
Leonard Fournette: 616 attempts in 32 games (19.25 per game)
Derrick Henry: 602 attempts in 39 games (15.44 per game0
Then you go to practice and saban is turning every shade of red and screaming at anybody who makes a mistake. Etc etc etc...these guys are emotionally and physically beaten down when they leave Tuscaloosa. That's why I call him the swag-vampire. It's all in good fun.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:31 pm to BlackCloud
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I just wonder if he doesn't regret that decision just a little.
Also, in order to regret a decision, wouldn't you have to have a viable second option?
What team would he have played for that would have:
1. Used him as a running back and not converted him to a DE or LB?
2. Put him in a position to be a featured back, which resulted in national awards, championships, and records?
What decision is he regretting, exactly?
Fournette could have been the 4th overall pick anywhere. Trent Richardson was apparently hot garbage and Bama turned him into a #3 overall.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:34 pm to BlackCloud
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's the practices that players like Jonathan Allen say are worse than games. It's the helicopter coaching that Eddie Lacy alluded to when he said that he didn't know how to be a pro when he got to the NFL because everything was taken care of at bama. It's having Cochran screaming in your face every day at 5am in the weight room.
Then you go to practice and saban is turning every shade of red and screaming at anybody who makes a mistake. Etc etc etc...these guys are emotionally and physically beaten down when they leave Tuscaloosa. That's why I call him the swag-vampire. It's all in good fun.
You're sounding like a jilted girlfriend now.
You would be fine with all of this if he was still coaching at LSU.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:36 pm to BlackCloud
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Yes and no. Eddie George would be a great back today.
Ron Dayne would be a bust today. Different era, same results.
Yes is the correct answer. The NFL is no longer a league that features running backs. Instead, teams throw the ball 50 times a game and send their 5+ YPC RB to the bench in favor of an "athlete" so they can pass the ball some more (looking at you, Saints). Running backs aren't valued like they were back then. Not even close.
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It's the practices that players like Jonathan Allen say are worse than games. It's the helicopter coaching that Eddie Lacy alluded to when he said that he didn't know how to be a pro when he got to the NFL because everything was taken care of at bama. It's having Cochran screaming in your face every day at 5am in the weight room.
Then you go to practice and saban is turning every shade of red and screaming at anybody who makes a mistake. Etc etc etc...these guys are emotionally and physically beaten down when they leave Tuscaloosa. That's why I call him the swag-vampire. It's all in good fun.
Maybe some of the blame should be placed on the NFL organizations who don't run a tight ship. How do you think the Patriots organization is run? They're the most successful organization in the league. Reckon where Saban learned his style of "helicopter coaching."
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:37 pm to BlackCloud
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So the guy who got drafted 45th made a better name for himself than the guy who got drafted 4th?
You're very very bright.
Uhh...yeah. DH had a much better college career.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:38 pm to BlackCloud
Ask any Bama player in the NFL if they regret that they went to Bama.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:39 pm to BlackCloud
Here's a question for you, similar to the one I just asked about DH and his other options to regret:
Where would LF have played that he wouldn't have ended up a top draft pick?
Is he a generational talent like you guys have been saying for the last 4 years or not?
Because if so, his draft status would have only been impacted by his ability to stay healthy.
Derrick Henry was not close a generational talent.
Where would LF have played that he wouldn't have ended up a top draft pick?
Is he a generational talent like you guys have been saying for the last 4 years or not?
Because if so, his draft status would have only been impacted by his ability to stay healthy.
Derrick Henry was not close a generational talent.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:41 pm to Rohan Gravy
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teams and businesses don't pay you millions of dollars if you suck...
Well... that's not true.
JaMarcus Russel, Trent Richardson, RGIII, etc...
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:41 pm to BlackCloud
Fournette could've gone to Stillman College and would've still been a top 10 pick.
NFL teams don't care that much about college production. They're looking for athleticism, skillsets and traits that project well for the next 10 years.
Fournette and Henry are actually pretty similar in this regard. Difference is Henry is 3 inches taller with a super awkward build for a RB; his long legs in particular are an issue as he's a large target on top of having a high center of gravity. If anything someone like George was a red flag for a team looking to draft someone like Henry as George was a pretty mediocre back in the NFL.
If Henry should regret anything it's probably not switching to LB in college. But a Heisman, a NC, and ~$3M guaranteed is hardly anything to be upset about.
NFL teams don't care that much about college production. They're looking for athleticism, skillsets and traits that project well for the next 10 years.
Fournette and Henry are actually pretty similar in this regard. Difference is Henry is 3 inches taller with a super awkward build for a RB; his long legs in particular are an issue as he's a large target on top of having a high center of gravity. If anything someone like George was a red flag for a team looking to draft someone like Henry as George was a pretty mediocre back in the NFL.
If Henry should regret anything it's probably not switching to LB in college. But a Heisman, a NC, and ~$3M guaranteed is hardly anything to be upset about.
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