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re: Do you Guys still Consider LSU Elite?

Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:21 pm to
Oh so BCS titles don't count adorable

Here is the NCAA website, maybe you've heard of this organization LINK
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:23 pm to
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1908? AP lists LSU with 2 titles, 1958 and 2007. LINK If you want to believe LSU is a blue blood type program, though, then knock yourself out.


If Alabama did what LSU did in 1908, they would claim the title.

LSU doesn't claim it.

AP hasn't been a decider since 97. Are you autistic? You must be autistic.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:27 pm to
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Elite programs don't have interim coaches

Sure
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:28 pm to
Elite? No

Consistently good? Absolutely

The right coach could put the program back into elite status.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:29 pm to
LSU is the second best program in the SEC. Take that as you may
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:29 pm to
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Here is the NCAA website, maybe you've heard of this organization LINK


And every one of those "blue blood" programs previously noted have won more titles than LSU has.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:32 pm to
Texas has not. Post integration, Michigan has not
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:32 pm to
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LSU is the second best program in the SEC. Take that as you may


Since 1970, which is about when all SEC programs had integrated, LSU is the 6th ranked SEC team in winning pct, behind even 5th ranked Tennessee.

After Alabama,there is UGA, UF, Auburn, UT, and then LSU.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36338 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:33 pm to
Yeah 1908 is one the NCAA record book gives LSU but the school does not claim. Lol at the AP in 2003. What a shite show that was, frickin' USC
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36338 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:35 pm to
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Since 1970, which is about when all SEC programs had integrated, LSU is the 6th ranked SEC team in winning pct, behind even 5th ranked Tennessee. After Alabama,there is UGA, UF, Auburn, UT, and then LSU.


We're measuring programs, use all time. No one cares about subjective stats. UGA, UF, Auburn ahead of LSU is Top Kek material
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:36 pm to
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Texas has not. Post integration, Michigan has not


Why do you think I said "plus Michigan"? They have won more games than any team in the nation. Like it or not, most college football fans consider Michigan a blue blood and do not consider LSU that.

Texas has won 3 since their conference integrated, but like Nebraska, they're kind of just barely hanging on to their celebrity.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:38 pm to
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We're measuring programs, use all time. No one cares about subjective stats. UGA, UF, Auburn ahead of LSU is Top Kek material


Integration is a clear point of demarcation for Southern teams. There is the white bread era, when the black kids couldn't even attend SEC schools, and when The University of Tennessee was relevant, and there is the post integration era.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:38 pm to
Tennessee is the conference's historic #2, but they aren't the brand, consistent winner and recruiting machine that LSU has been for the past 15 years

Alabama

LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia

A&M
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Arkansas

Mississippi State
South Carolina

Missouri
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:39 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:38 pm to
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Do you Guys still Consider LSU Elite?



Not right now. Miles coached the "elite" right out of this program. If we get the right guy in here next year....maybe.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:39 pm to
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Why do you think I said "plus Michigan"?

Because they piled on a lot of wins and titles prior to WW2
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:40 pm to
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Tennessee is the conference's historic #2, but they aren't the brand, consistent winner and recruiting machine that LSU has been for the past 15 years


Tennessee ranks 5th since the SEC was integrated and LSU ranks 6th. Thems the facts. Nick Saban made LSU a contender, but he ain't walking through that purple and gold locker room door anymore.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36338 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:45 pm to
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Integration is a clear point of demarcation for Southern teams. There is the white bread era, when the black kids couldn't even attend SEC schools, and when The University of Tennessee was relevant, and there is the post integration era.


There are multiple points we can use. That is just subjective to what you feel is the best point. Some would argue the implementation of roster limits had a bigger impact. Remember Bryant's gigantic Bama teams? What about the allowance of unlimited substitutions which led to the invention of platoon football? That's another HUGE one.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:47 pm to
LSU is an elite program.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

Do you Guys still Consider LSU


No
Posted by VOLLeyLLama
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2016
411 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:57 pm to
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