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re: Did Lane Kiffin blow the game for Bama?

Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:45 pm to
Special team turnovers killed any momentum we had.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:56 pm to
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I understand your point but I think it has the benefit of hindsight.


For sure.

But there's a reason why some coaches are more conservative in those situations.

I think we can all agree Kiffin isn't one of those coaches.

And the special teams mistakes greatly reduced whatever margin for error Bama had. It's not like Kiffin knew that another special teams mistake was right around the bend. He only had control of the plays he called, coaching the players prior to the game and knowing how best to utilize their skillsets.

I understand there was obvious miscommunication between Bateman and the receiver on the first INT but that only underscores my point that it was a risky call. shite is more likely to happen when you launch a deep ball.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:10 pm to
Damn, this is hilarious:

Roll Bama Roll: An open letter to Lane Kiffin

quote:

Dear Lane,

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. As you know, there has been some concern among Alabama fans that the offense, and the quarterback play in particular, has lagged behind the defense and may well cost Alabama a chance at a championship this season. Don't get us wrong, we greatly appreciate the work that you put in last year - well, until you lost your mind against Ohio State, anyway - and came into this season excited that you would have the opportunity to choose from several talented signal-callers. With your track record in developing quarterbacks, the sky was the limit!

We learned before the season that you planned on using posterboards adorned with cartoon pictures to signal plays in to the quarterback. We won't lie, Lane, this didn't sit well with many of us [because it felt too much like Auburn] Alabama is a traditional program with traditional football values. We like our coach-quarterback communication to happen the old-fashioned way: via wireless radio. We groaned and came to terms with this, however, since cartoons make people happy.


Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:25 pm to
why don't bama fans ever complain about smart. he gave up tons of points to om, ohio state and auburn a couple years ago in losses where the offense scored over 30 points. the D is broken in big games!
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:33 pm to
Kiffin is the fall guy for a horrible defense. Did any one ever think that Bama could score 30+ points and loose while it's considered the offenses fault.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:47 pm to
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For sure.

But there's a reason why some coaches are more conservative in those situations.

I think we can all agree Kiffin isn't one of those coaches.


No, he isn't one of those coaches but no less than Saban himself said he was hired to open up the offense and he's most certainly done it. But as you said, when you take more risks you're going to get bit more often.

For the record, I wasn't a fan of the hire one little bit. I'm still not a fan of Kiffin as a person but it's simply intellectually dishonest for people (Bama fans in particular) to point the finger at him when the offense is churning out the numbers is is now.
Posted by OilfieldLSUFan
St Tammany Parish
Member since Sep 2015
267 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:04 pm to
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Two plays really stood out to me - and both of them surely were decisions by Kiffin.

1) Game tied 3-3 about 10 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Ole Miss had just gone 3 and out. On 2nd and 8, Kiffin has Bateman throw the deep ball. It's picked off and returned to the Bama 26. 6 plays later, Ole Miss scores their first TD and scores another TD after Bama fumbles the ensuing kickoff. Prior to that interception, Bama and Ole Miss were battling it out pretty good. That INT completely changed the game.

2) Down 43-37 with 2:54 on the clock, Bama has the ball 1st and 10 at their own 33. On the play before, Coker reeled off a 20+ yard run. Then Kiffin has Coker throw a deep ball and Ole Miss intercepts on their own 32. There was more than enough time on the clock to mount a drive (Bama had scored 2 TDs on the previous 2 possessions). Instead, Kiffin went deep and it backfired again.

I didn't think Coker played badly at all. If anything, he kept several drives going with his surprising mobility. Instead, I question some of the play calls. It's like Kiffin thinks he's back in the Pac 10.

For sure, Bama made plenty of other mistakes. The special teams mistakes were huge. Ole Miss certainly played very well. Swag, Nkemdiche and Treadwell are all phenomenal.

But after watching the game again today, I think I get why Finebaum is convinced that Kiffin won't be back next year.

How many Bama fans think Kiffin will be back next year?

Not trolling, honestly curious. It was a helluva game to watch. Very entertaining.


He looked like he blew something that day but I am not so sure it was the game...
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:07 pm to
Nope. Unless you blame him for the 5 turnovers. Kiffin is a detestable human being but is a good football coach, nonetheless.
Posted by bama my heart
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Member since Mar 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:14 pm to
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Nope. Unless you blame him for the 5 turnovers. Kiffin is a detestable human being but is a good football coach, nonetheless.


I totally agree. You can't blame a coach when players(experienced players) can not even take care of the football on the kickoff returns.
He may call the play, but the quarterback is also responsible to see if the field changes and if suddenly there is a member of the other team where you were going to throw the ball then don't do it.
In my opinion coaches can only do so much and the players have to be held responsible for mistakes that they make. They don't have to do this in public, but later in review, the player has to see that the mistake was his.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:34 pm to
Brer Tiger.. to you for starting and facilitating a multi-page, non flaming thread that includes a lot of real football talk with interesting input from other posters. this might be a first for the rant thank you!
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:37 pm to
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this might be a first for the rant thank you!


Nah. It happens more than you'd think.

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