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re: Did Alabama Deserve to Make the Playoff? (Post playoff/bowl analysis)

Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:22 pm to
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I was talking about getting into the play-off in the first place


Of course. That is a given. I was talking about winning the whole thing. So, we were talking about two different things. Thanks for the clarification.
Posted by SHOCKTIDE
KEYS of FLORIDA
Member since Jul 2014
282 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Could you imagine a 13-0 defending champ Alabama team being dropped down to #4?


Could you believe an LSU team getting beat 4 straight years by Alabama and not playing for a title at all.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:23 pm to
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I was talking about getting into the play-off in the first place, which is what the thread is about, right?


Yep. I thought that we had shifted to winning the championship. I see what you are saying now. Thanks.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:25 pm to
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Could you believe an LSU team getting beat 4 straight years by Alabama and not playing for a title at all.


Of course. It happened. What are you deflecting from? And, I don't think that you understood his question.

Look, this thread is not a criticism of Alabama. Bama went 12-1 and won the SEC. They did what they had to do and earned their way in. It is an analysis of where the SEC actually was, and since we don't have spots for all of the conference champs, this type of thing will be talked about.

Bama fans do not have to be sensitive.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:31 pm to
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Lol I love how people put so much emphasis on this...

Jones is freakin good man I don't care what "string" he is.




He was one of the top 20 qb's in the nation when he was recruited.

I love it how people think we lost to a walk on.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4767 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
a rosounding no.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 4:56 pm to
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Who did they actually beat that was worth anything?


when you really dive into everyone's schedule, no one was any indisputably top notch wins. The best win prior to the bowl's of anyone in the top 6 was Baylor's win over TCU. TCU does appear to be a top 5 team inarguably, after having watched the Ole Miss game, but Ole Miss was a shadow of the team it was in October when it knocked off Alabama.

The only reasoning I can think of regarding Ohio St's loss to Virginia Tech, which is just impossibly bad, to what they appear to be now, is that the team simply improved far more than other teams did. But maybe playing a really soft Big10 helped them by allowing them to avoid injuries, I don't know, I don't want to pour over everyone's rosters looking for who suffered more from injury.

Before the Bowls, i felt the teams should have been ranked like this:

1. Oregon
2. Alabama
3. Florida St
4. Baylor
5. TCU
6. Ohio St
7. Michigan St
8. Mississippi St
9. Ole Miss
10. Arizona

after having watched them, I think they should be ranked like this:

1. Oregon
2. TCU
3. Ohio St
4. Alabama
5. Michigan St
6. Baylor
7. Florida St
8. Georgia Tech
9. Ole Miss
10. Mississippi St

The only real take away I have from this is how badly I wish nonconference schedules were exclusively power 5 (and major independents) There just aren't enough data points to feel certain of rankings now. The game has matured so much, there are many great teams, dozens of good teams, and no world beaters.
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