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Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:53 pm to ProjectP2294
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Sex among consenting high school students is not illegal. If it were, 14 year olds wouldn't be able to buy Plan B without their parent's permission.
In most places (maybe even all) it most certainly is when one is 14 and the other is 18.
In Alabama, it is called 2nd degree rape. Someone under the age of 16 cannot legally consent to sex - which includes a BJ. If the prosecutor pushes the issue (which is often determined by the desires of the parent) you will indeed find yourself a registered sex offender for life and quite possibly serve prison time.
The fact that both are in high school has absolutely zero relevance. The one and only thing that matters is the age of the participants.
Alabama's law is in line with most of the rest of the country and some surprising places are much stricter. California's a straight 18, with greater than 3 years age difference being a felony and less than 3 being a misdemeanor.
Louisiana's is 17, with a 2 year age difference 'Romeo and Juliet' window if both participants are between the ages of 15 an 19.
Call it stupid if you want, but that is the law.
Edited to add: Honestly not posting about the Hill incident, I don't know the facts of the case. I'm merely responding to the 'sex among consenting high school students is not illegal' comment.
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:54 pm to Warfarer
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:58 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Tell that to the 14 year old's father.
If it were up to ANY father, their daughter would never have sex or give a BJ at ANY age. Just saying.
Again, I'm not saying it was right. Some of you are just speaking out of your asses.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:59 pm to elit4ce05
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then you're a fricking pedophile. You realize that is illegal in EVERY state in this nation and carries anywhere from 10 to 25 years of prison time along with lifetime registration as a sex offender? But for some reason you feel it's ok? It carries that kind of punishment for a reason.
I think it's a ridiculous law. I have seen situations where a parent pressed charges for this when two people were dating in high school and the guy gets branded for life for being a sex offender for "carnal knowledge" of a minor that he ends up marrying. One case I saw the guy had a birthday and for three weeks they fit the criteria for "carnal knowledge" of a minor and then she had a birthday and they no longer fit the criteria. They still convicted him and he is now a sex offender for the rest of his life.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:00 pm to JustGetItRight
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Alabama's law is in line with most of the rest of the country and some surprising places are much stricter. California's a straight 18, with greater than 3 years age difference being a felony and less than 3 being a misdemeanor.
Louisiana's is 17, with a 2 year age difference 'Romeo and Juliet' window if both participants are between the ages of 15 an 19.
Call it stupid if you want, but that is the law.
you are losing sight of the actual law he broke. there is a difference even if under age between consensual and not.
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80.1. Misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a juvenile
A. Misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a juvenile is committed when a person who is seventeen years of age or older has sexual intercourse, with consent, with a person who is thirteen years of age or older but less than seventeen years of age, when the victim is not the spouse of the offender, and when the difference between the age of the victim and age of the offender is greater than two years, but less than four years.
B. As used in this Section, "sexual intercourse" means anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse.
C. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense. Emission is not necessary, and penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the crime.
D. Whoever commits the crime of misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a juvenile shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.
E. The offender shall be eligible to have his conviction set aside and his prosecution dismissed in accordance with the appropriate provisions of the Code of Criminal Procedure.
F. The offender shall not be subject to any of the provisions of law which are applicable to sex offenders, including but not limited to the provisions which require registration of the offender and notice to the neighbors of the offender.
ETA, now under 13 it doesnt matter as far as consent
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:01 pm to Tennessee Jed
Depends on the crime. Most arrests under Muschamp have been for typical college stuff (misdemeanor pot possession and underage drinking).
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:03 pm to Tennessee Jed
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I can't speak for LSU fans, but I know, matter of factly, that if Butch Jones allowed a player like Hill to remain on the roster, I'd be giving away my season tickets and Vol apparel.
So you're fairly confident there's no players on Tenn that didn't do what Hill did in high school? For real dude? Or are you confident that there's none that got caught? Additionally are you confident that there's no Vol player that's been in a fight of some sort? Think about it. College kids, bars and hot tempers. Not a possibility? Truth is all SEC roosters have kids that have done these things and worse. You're supporting them and screaming for them from atop your high horse all season long. Most of them aren't "violent predators" or "thugs". They're just kids making immature decisions. Most of which respond and grow and mature. Make you feel better cause a cell phone camera wasn't around to capture the ones wearing orange?
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:04 pm to Tennessee Jed
I bet Janzen Jackson and Britton Colquit would disagree with you. You QB last year was a tool. Did you give away your tickets?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:08 pm to Lost Cajun in Tn
All I know is if Mettenberger and Hill room together during away games, that state should put out a APB warning the females to take precaution.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:15 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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All I know is if Mettenberger and Hill room together during away games, that state should put out a APB warning the females to take precaution.
Pray tell who or what do they put precautions out for when the Auburn team comes to town?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:19 pm to USMC Gators
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Depends on the crime. Most arrests under Muschamp have been for typical college stuff (misdemeanor pot possession and underage drinking).
You do understand an arrest for pot possession makes you a criminal right? That's how he framed the question. Do you support criminals on your team?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:20 pm to NYCAuburn
I added an addendum to my post. I don't know enough about Hill to discuss it, I was just referring to the 'sex amongst high school students' statement.
As far as Hill goes, the whole thing is a moot discussion. The state convicted him of a misdemeanor, and that is the end. It doesn't matter if someone thinks the act should be totally legal and someone else thinks it should be a capital offense.
It was a misdemeanor committed before he even joined LSU. His most recent offense is also a misdemeanor. They were punished by the state as a misdemeanor and should be punished by LSU in the same light. That means you don't end the kid's career (and thus probably his education).
As far as Hill goes, the whole thing is a moot discussion. The state convicted him of a misdemeanor, and that is the end. It doesn't matter if someone thinks the act should be totally legal and someone else thinks it should be a capital offense.
It was a misdemeanor committed before he even joined LSU. His most recent offense is also a misdemeanor. They were punished by the state as a misdemeanor and should be punished by LSU in the same light. That means you don't end the kid's career (and thus probably his education).
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