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re: Confirmed: Vanderbilt Football Players Under Investigation for Rape (Suspended)
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:37 am to jfran23
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:37 am to jfran23
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Four names are rumored, 3 RS Freshmen and an incoming JUCO transfer. Not confirmed...
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Supposedly the incident was caught on security cameras in the dorm. Possibly Gillette Hall...
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The University itself is the one who took to matter to authorities...
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Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:42 am to Dore5674
On top of everything else, these guys just blew a full ride to Vanderbilt. Their parents must be so proud.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 9:05 am to diddydirtyAubie
Muschamp went to Darlington, but the two schools are close to one another
Posted on 6/29/13 at 9:12 am to theGarnetWay
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Vandy making a push for the Fulmer Cup.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 9:37 am to borodore
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This is a pretty sick feeling. I'd rather return to being a doormat than be associated with such actions.
I sincerely hope, if found guilty, these four players are punished severely. Vanderbilt should never tolerant this kind of activity. But I also hope the anti-football crowd, the same crowd that gave us decades of defeat, does not prevail in throwing out the baby with the bath water. If you are suggesting (like the anti football crowd does) that you cannot complete the two elementary tasks of successful academics and successful athletics simultaneously, then I vehemently disagree with you. The good Lord gifted both endeavors for the enjoyment of mankind.
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Posted on 6/29/13 at 10:43 am to morriscat2
Vandy should be kicked-out of the league for this ... and an invite to Texas immediately offered.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 12:47 pm to morriscat2
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If you are suggesting (like the anti football crowd does) that you cannot complete the two elementary tasks of successful academics and successful athletics simultaneously, then I vehemently disagree with you. The good Lord gifted both endeavors for the enjoyment of mankind.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 12:57 pm to PepaSpray
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exactly. I know of a guy who was caught having an affair with a married woman, by the husband. She claimed rape to save face. He is still in prison after 30 years.
It helps to know she ran off with the police chief who was investigating the ordeal. He personally denied the alleged's parole until his death five years ago to cover for his New love.
The parole board uses the police chief's denial against him in all of his hearings since
and none of the bleeding heart justice for the innocents non-profits have helped this guy yet?
I'd make sure one of my boys handled business for me and put those people in the dirt years ago.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:01 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
This is getting heavy.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 3:06 pm to morriscat2
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If you are suggesting (like the anti football crowd does) that you cannot complete the two elementary tasks of successful academics and successful athletics simultaneously, then I vehemently disagree with you
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I've fought the anti-athletics crowd for years. Just very disappointed right now. Great post by the way.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 3:50 pm to borodore
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I guess now we know what it feels like to be a UT, UGA, or UF fan
Enjoy it, this feeling will soon fade away in a matter of weeks when the offseason come to an end.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 3:56 pm to BamaChick
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So one story makes you unilaterally say you won't believe a woman that says she was sexually assaulted without "overwhelming evidence"?
What is "overwhelming evidence"?
I realize that there are women who make false rape accusations, but the number of women who get raped and don't report it > the number of women who make false rape accusations.
There's plenty of stories. Just go on google.
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Lyons had been sent to prison after being found guilty of raping a female neighbor in west suburban Woodridge. But DNA evidence later proved he had been falsely convicted.
"Money can't compensate for lost time," said Lyons, now 54 and living in Indiana. "I was planning to finish up college and return to the Navy. That never happened. I had no career, and my life was taken from me."
He also said he could not find work upon his release because he had to register as a sex offender. His personal relationships suffered. He never married or had children.
Lyons was 29 years old in 1987 — a Navy reservist with no criminal record — when a neighbor in the Maple Tree Apartment complex in Woodridge accused him of rape.
He was found guilty and sentenced to six years in prison. He was paroled in three years.
In the letter, Rush said the crime and the subsequent investigation took place before DNA testing was widely available to investigators and added that the case was based on eyewitness identification.
3.1 million settlement reached for man falsely imprisoned
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Houston man who successfully sued the city of Houston in 2009 after he spent 17 years in prison wrongfully convicted of kidnapping and rape will receive $3.1 million, Mayor Annise Parker announced Friday.
Since being released, he has had trouble finding a job because of another felony conviction and is unable to work steadily because of back problems. He said last year he picks up cans and pays his rent by helping his landlord do handyman work.
Despite being freed in 2004, Rodriguez's requests for exoneration or a pardon were turned away until last year when Harris County District Attorney Pat Lykos declared him "actually innocent."
Rodriguez was sentenced to 60 years in prison in 1987 after he was identified by the victim as one of two men who kidnapped and raped her at a Denver Harbor-area house. He was arrested after the HPD Crime Lab did serological testing and hair comparisons that were later shown to be flawed.
Of course ridiculously more girl are raped than the ones who falsely accuse, but sometimes women take advantage, and when that happens, I feel more unsure about these girls innocence.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 4:00 pm to Datbayoubengal
Did dome research, didn't you?
Posted on 6/29/13 at 4:11 pm to TotalRebel
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Did dome research, didn't you?
Yeah, just saw the comment, went on google because I'd seen one last year but didn't remember it(neither of these are the one I was specifically looking for). I think I got my point across though.
Took me all of five minutes, most of which was copy and paste.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 4:18 pm to Datbayoubengal
There are absolutely cases where women falsely accuse. And those cases hurt the victims, their families, their friends...and every woman who is sexually assaulted and afraid to come forward because she fears she won't be believed, or is ashamed, or the guy convinces her it's her fault. Only about 10% of sexual assaults in this country get reported. One in four women will be raped, many before age 21, and most by someone they know. Are there four women in your life that you're close to? Mom, grandmothers, sisters, s/o? Think about that. And most never tell. I can promise you, you've interacted with a lot of sexual assault or rape victims.
Immediately doubting the claim because there are instances where people have been falsely accused isn't the answer. Just wait for the investigation to play out.
I will say though, that the fact Vandy has already dismissed the players is very telling.
Immediately doubting the claim because there are instances where people have been falsely accused isn't the answer. Just wait for the investigation to play out.
I will say though, that the fact Vandy has already dismissed the players is very telling.
This post was edited on 6/29/13 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 6/29/13 at 5:33 pm to semotruman
I've always thought it was interesting that rape is considered such a terrible crime- but then when women are asked what their number 1 fantasy is?
Number 1 fantasy of women- Although saying "rape fantasy" sounds somewhat unthinkable, that's exactly what most women call it. They want to play the innocent, naive, unknowing little girl who gets taken advantage of by the devious, predator-like man.
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Number 1 fantasy of women- Although saying "rape fantasy" sounds somewhat unthinkable, that's exactly what most women call it. They want to play the innocent, naive, unknowing little girl who gets taken advantage of by the devious, predator-like man.
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Posted on 6/29/13 at 5:36 pm to semotruman
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I will say though, that the fact Vandy has already dismissed the players is very telling.
Not really
SEC schools vary as there is no uniform policy on dismissal. It was a point of contention at the SEC meetings in Destin this year. I believe Georgia and Kentucky have the strongest policies on drugs (1 strike and you are out) and the west schools you can have 4 strikes before they can you. I am guessing when it comes to sexual assault Vandy's policies may be the toughest because they also have an honor code taken for academics that may reach beyond this in such a case. If the female was a VU student her statement could be viewed as true from the start until proven untrue.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 5:36 pm to scrooster
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Vandy should be kicked-out of the league for this ... and an invite to Texas immediately offered.
I'm sure you are kidding Screwster, but no "add on" school or it's fans should ever have a say so about a charter member SEC school, period. If anybody gets kicked out of this league for Vandy's Rape issues, it should be Mizzou.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 5:38 pm to CoonassBulldog
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I've always thought it was interesting that rape is considered such a terrible crime- but then when women are asked what their number 1 fantasy is?
That is why you have safe words.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 5:44 pm to Cheese Grits
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Not really
SEC schools vary as there is no uniform policy on dismissal.
They probably should, but a set policy sort of eliminates the chance to consider specific circumstances, which I'm generally against. At Mizzou, if you're charged with a felony, you're suspended immediately, and likely dismissed. These guys would be gone here too. On pot, they generally sit a game on the first offense, and would be dismissed after the 2nd, I think. Could be 3rd.
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