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re: Confirmed: Vanderbilt Football Players Under Investigation for Rape (Suspended)
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:31 pm to semotruman
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:31 pm to semotruman
No, I was simply pointing out the interesting duality of rape. Women both want it and dont want it.
There are too many episodes of women crying wolf. Alot of these things happen when a college age girl may be intoxicated and let's loose, only to sober up and become embarrassed about what she did- and then cries rape.
There are also episodes of males being too aggressive and doing things they shouldnt- and assaulting women.
It's just a tough subject and ridiculous for anyone to judge until facts have come out.
There are too many episodes of women crying wolf. Alot of these things happen when a college age girl may be intoxicated and let's loose, only to sober up and become embarrassed about what she did- and then cries rape.
There are also episodes of males being too aggressive and doing things they shouldnt- and assaulting women.
It's just a tough subject and ridiculous for anyone to judge until facts have come out.
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Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:35 pm to semotruman
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I think we're talking about 2 different issues here. You said earlier you didn't think the school should be able to test them. But what you're talking about here is what they do with that information. Are schools even required to announce when they suspend a player? I've always wondered this.
In my perfect world, they wouldn't be. This is reality though, and it's more practical to hope for small victories.
I just think that the whole way drug use/abuse is viewed is all kinds of fricked up. Half of the scholarship offensive linemen in the SEC could give Andre the Giant a run for his money. No one talks about that though. But they vilify someone like Mathieu who likes to get high just like those other guys like to get drunk. It's really all the same. Just because the government is retarded and says one is illegal and the other isn't doesn't change the fact that people who go overboard with both have the same exact type of problem.
It shouldn't be something we punish. It needs to be treated like a medical/psychological problem. That's a much better way of doing things than telling a kid that his life might be ruined because he isn't able to stop smoking weed even if he honestly trying. I never had a problem quitting for any length of time, but I do know some people struggle with it a lot more than that. They shouldn't be treated like criminals for it though.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:35 pm to CoonassBulldog
YOU THINK RAPE IS NOT A TERRIBLE CRIME.
I did not quote the second part of your post did I?
As I said, someone that is ok with beating women it doesn't surprise me you think this.
I did not quote the second part of your post did I?
As I said, someone that is ok with beating women it doesn't surprise me you think this.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:36 pm to semotruman
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Fantasy is not reality. Women may fantasize, but they don't have a desire to be raped in real life. Many people fantasize about killing their boss, but would never actually do so.
People fantasize about things they would like to do or about things they want done to them. Nobody fantasizes about awful things happening to them.
And I can assure you, many of those people that fantsize about killing their boss would do it if they could get away with it and not end up in jail. Why? Because it's something they want to do.
Little kids grow up fantasizing about making the winning shot, winning catch, or hitting a winning HR- why? It's something they want. Nobody fantasizes about striking out to lose a big game.
Peoples fantasies are things they find pleasant and appealing to them.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:37 pm to Robot Santa
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That's a much better way of doing things than telling a kid that his life might be ruined because he isn't able to stop smoking weed even if he honestly trying.
Some schools do try though. I agree it should be mandatory to allow the student athlete to get counseling/rehab before throwing them out though.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:38 pm to Shunface
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YOU THINK RAPE IS NOT A TERRIBLE CRIME.
I said no such thing- you're just making shite up
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:45 pm to CoonassBulldog
Dude, that is exactly what you fricking said.
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I've always thought it was interesting that rape is considered such a terrible crime
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:46 pm to Shunface
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Shunface
Nice selective editing.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:47 pm to CoonassBulldog
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People fantasize about things they would like to do or about things they want done to them. Nobody fantasizes about awful things happening to them.
Again - fantasies are not reality.
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And I can assure you, many of those people that fantsize about killing their boss would do it if they could get away with it and not end up in jail. Why? Because it's something they want to do.
You're leaving people's morality out of the equation. People know that murder is wrong. And their own moral code would stop many of them from committing it, even if they wouldn't get caught. Again, doing something in reality is much different than fantasizing. Fantasizing is day-dreaming. That's it.
Rape fantasies aren't about being hurt - they're about escaping from the dull and mundane everyday life that many women lead. They feel pressured to be perfect and handle lots of different things - so they fantasize about being powerless for a change. I don't get it, but I've read about it.
Just like men who fantasize about raping someone aren't fantasizing about sex - it's about control.
This post was edited on 6/29/13 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:47 pm to CoonassBulldog
Coon, are you from the Grenada area?
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:49 pm to semotruman
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Did they ever find that girl? That whole thing was messed up.
Agreed, but dope and coke was rampant back then and folks were just crazy. Are you old enough to remember her name?
As for dope, it is not a question of lying but not passing the tests. UK is pretty tough on that which is good because it prevents more things from spinning out of control. UK is a dry campus as well because of the kids that got killed in the wreck after the TN game and the Carrollton bus crash.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:51 pm to adammwilson
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I've always thought it was interesting that rape is considered such a terrible crime- but then when women are asked what their number 1 fantasy is
There ya go. He thinks rape is cool because some women fantasize about being raped.
Fantasy is not the same thing as being raped.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:52 pm to Cheese Grits
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Are you old enough to remember her name?
Nah, I just remember seeing the Dominick Dunne show on it. I'd have to look it up.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:54 pm to Robot Santa
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Drug use is a victimless crime.
Tell yourself that but I disagree. A friend of mine, brother, and dad were brutally murdered by a robbery gone bad when the 2 perps who were on a drug binge at the time.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 7:56 pm to SwayzeBalla
Woah woah. Don't lump that trash in with my hometown.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:24 pm to adammwilson
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Nice selective editing.
exactly- this was the whole quote:
"I've always thought it was interesting that rape is considered such a terrible crime- but then when women are asked what their number 1 fantasy is"
meaning it's crazy that women fantasize about being raped yet it is a severe crime. Nobody fantasizes about being murdered, or physically assaulted, or having their money embezzled away from them- but women do indeed fantasize about being raped.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:25 pm to SwayzeBalla
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Coon, are you from the Grenada area?
no
Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:26 pm to Shunface
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There ya go. He thinks rape is cool because some women fantasize about being raped.
once again- you're making shite up. Nowhere in my quote did I say it was cool.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:29 pm to semotruman
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Again - fantasies are not reality.
you havent dated enough 30-something year old women then. You will be very surprised how many fantasies get acted out
Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:31 pm to CoonassBulldog
You are correct. You did not say it was cool. You just don't think it's a terrible crime.
Awesome, good for you.
Awesome, good for you.
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