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re: Chubb vs Fournette 2016

Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Yeah the great ones dumbass. You clearly showed it was the GREAT PLAYERS putting up stats. You may not have meant to but you shite on your own argument.




What are you talking about? The 2 uf rbs were not great players. Their ypc went way down without the multiple threat run scheme. The only way you can say I shite on my argument is if you don't understand the argument.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:46 pm to
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What are you talking about? The 2 uf rbs were not great players. Their ypc went way down without the multiple threat run scheme. The only way you can say I shite on my argument is if you don't understand the argument.


You realize they are the outliers right or do you not understand your own stats you put up? 2? Youre basing your argument on 2 players?
Only someone who doesnt stand football would say scheme helps anywhere close to as much as a players talent. Just admit that you cherry picked so that each uga rb could be called better. Because that exactly what you did and everyone without a G next to their name can see.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:03 pm to
I supported my argument with stats from auburn, Ohio state, and uf, so I don't think they are outliers. If we look into Oregon and ga tech, I bet they would support my point further, that Multiple good running threats helps rbs out. How can you claim a rb won't be better off with less focus on him?
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64051 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:12 pm to
The only time a defense potentially takes eyes off a running back is in 3rd and very long.

All this othe scheme talk is horseshite, the only exception being when 3 rbs in backfield.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:24 pm to
If the d has to account for a 2nd or 3rd running threat, they can't 100% focus their efforts on one runner. By mentioning a third runner, you seem to understand that, yet you call it bullshite anyways. Kind of contradictory there.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:38 pm to
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supported my argument with stats from auburn, Ohio state, and uf, so I don't think they are outliers. If we look into Oregon and ga tech, I bet they would support my point further, that Multiple good running threats helps rbs out. How can you claim a rb won't be better off with less focus on him?


K. The only person that cant see this is you. You used two different ways to rank UGA backs so it would paint the UGA back in better light. You either cant see this or dont want too. You clearly need to brush up on what an outlier is.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:40 pm to
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If the d has to account for a 2nd or 3rd running threat, they can't 100% focus their efforts on one runner. By mentioning a third runner, you seem to understand that, yet you call it bullshite anyways. Kind of contradictory there.


Whats bullshite is using ypc to paint Chubb and LF in the same light and the dismissing ypc for Bo and Herschel. That's bullshite.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:48 pm to
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to paint Chubb and LF in the same light and the dismissing ypc for Bo and Herschel. That's bull shite.



Do you really not understand the difference between the I formation and the wish bone? You need to do some research before stepping into a discussion about the merits of different schemes.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 2:54 pm to
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cant see this is you. You used two different ways to rank UGA backs so it would paint the UGA back in better light. You either cant see this or dont want too. You clearly need to brush up on what an outlier is.


You forgot to answer the question.

If you can't see my point, you don't comprehend the meaning of the stats I posted from multiple programs.

Ypc is the most meaningful point of comparison when schemes are similar, which means the same logic can't be applied to every single comparison.
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
453 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:13 pm to
Why is Uga still in the sec? They provide no value in football.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:18 pm to
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They provide no value in football.



We have the 3rd most sec titles in sec history. Better than nothing i guess.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64051 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:20 pm to
Without UGA, where will the SEC West get their expelled thugs from?

Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
Member since Apr 2016
830 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:22 pm to
Dang. I didn't realize Fournette's stats were so mediocre.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40016 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 5:24 pm to
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cmacatl13


Quit being a little bitch and stop posting under your alter.
Posted by Central Pork
Member since Jul 2014
1286 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 5:39 pm to
Both are great RBs. But, realize, there may be someone better that will emerge in 2016. It always happens.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:08 pm to
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Do you really not understand the difference between the I formation and the wish bone? You need to do some research before stepping into a discussion about the merits of different schemes


Says the guy ,literally everyone, is disagreeing with. You didnt prove anything. You proved it was more about the players than the scheme amd you are the only one to not realize it. I probably talking to someone that cant tell me the differences between zone, man and gap blocking schemes and yet you tell me to read up on schemes?
Its takes a real dumbass to double down on being wrong. Brush up on what an outlier is and next time try to not shite on your own argument because you are the only one who cant see that you did.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:21 pm to
He's black though so he's allowed
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:26 pm to
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He's black though so he's allowed


Shouldn't be. Double standard much?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:28 pm to
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Says the guy ,literally everyone, is disagreeing with. You didnt prove anything. You proved it was more about the players than the scheme amd you are the only one to not realize it. I probably talking to someone that cant tell me the differences between zone, man and gap blocking schemes and yet you tell me to read up on schemes?
Its takes a real dumbass to double down on being wrong. Brush up on what an outlier is and next time try to not shite on your own argument because you are the only one who cant see that you did.


Claiming it's an outlier is far from proving its an outlier.

You think it's a coincidence the rbs from uf, au, and osu produced more with good 2nd/3rd running options a D has to account for, but it's not.

You once again avoided the question about wish bone vs I Formation, so don't blame me for questioning your understanding of such things. Here is another chance for you to explain the differences.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123632 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:34 pm to
I'm glad that we could all come to an agreement that Fournette is better than Chubb.
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