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re: Chubb vs Fournette 2016
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:07 pm to RB10
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:07 pm to RB10
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Chubb salvaged a poor performance with an 83 yard TD run, on his last carry of the game, when Georgia was down 35 points.
Crap I hate these threads, and one day I am going to learn to ignore them and not post in them. But....
I understand what you are saying.....BUT....
Fournette got 31 yards all game, but got 18 yards on one carry, so the same could be said of him. That leaves him with 13 yards on 18 carries.
I don't see why any of this matters, or what it means to any of us. What difference does it make? It doesn't make me a better person if Chubb is the better back. it doesn't make me smarter, better looking (And i can use all the help I can get) richer....it absolutely gives me no single advantage over anything or anybody.
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:09 pm to djsdawg
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1.3 yards per carry in a similar offense for starters is in fact a large difference. Don't confuse that statement of fact with whining.
Until it doesn't benefit the UGA player, which, coincidentally, we established in this very thread. This is why your opinion can no longer be taken seriously.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:11 pm to DawgsLife
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I understand what you are saying.....BUT....
Fournette got 31 yards all game, but got 18 yards on one carry, so the same could be said of him. That leaves him with 13 yards on 18 carries.
Which brings me back to my point of neither being effective, which is the reality of the situation. I'll stop bringing this up when people stop using Chubb's stat line vs. Alabama to degrade Fournette.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:16 pm to RB10
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benefit the UGA player, which, coincidentally, we established in this very thread. This is why your opinion can no longer be taken seriously.
You and the other guy don't understand the difference between an I formation and a wishbone. That's been apparent the whole time. One can't take an opinion serious if one doesnt even understand what it's based on.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:17 pm to RB10
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Which brings me back to my point of neither being effective, which is the reality of the situation.
In fairness, Chubb still would have had a stat line of 63 yards on 19 carries. Not too bad against Alabama's defense.
That said, I have nothing but respect for Fournette. Until Chubb proves he is fully recovered from his injury, Fournette is the better back.
I'm just not hanging my self worth on Nick Chubb. I'm not saying you are...I am just amazed at how many people get so riled up over this topic when it really does not matter. They are so close in talent that it just doesn't matter.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:18 pm to djsdawg
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You and the other guy don't understand the difference between an I formation and a wishbone. That's been apparent the whole time. One can't take an opinion serious if one doesnt even understand what it's based on.
What's sad is you think this somehow makes cherry picking stats a valid argument.
Hint: It doesn't.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:23 pm to RB10
Validity Depends on the details of the situation. The only valid comparisons are apples to apples, but That does not apply to every comparison. The wish bone and I formation aren't similar enough to be called apples to apples.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:26 pm to djsdawg
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In fairness, Chubb still would have had a stat line of 63 yards on 19 carries. Not too bad against Alabama's defense.
It's ok to admit that Chubb had a poor game up until his last run. There isn't a running back in history that is immune to being stopped on occasion. It's the nature of the position.
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Validity Depends on the details of the situation. The only valid comparisons are apples to apples, but That does not apply to every comparison. The wish bone and I formation aren't similar enough to be called apples to apples.
You're a joke and a homer. It's time to give it up.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:45 pm to RB10
Until you can understand the difference between the I and the wish bone, you would be better off without the empty insults.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:53 pm to RB10
He had what, 80 yards before that touch. How many yards did LF have rushing?
Edit: now I see why you folks won't answer. Even without the 80 yard run Chubb still had twice as many yards.
Edit: now I see why you folks won't answer. Even without the 80 yard run Chubb still had twice as many yards.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:05 pm to djsdawg
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Took 58 carries to get 320? Not as impressive as you think.
5.5 ypc vs Florida isn't as bad as you think. Chubb wouldn't know, because he has had the opportunity to carry 58 times vs UF.
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Giving a rb credit in a team game?
You gotta play to get stats.
My point though is that comparing YPC for two backs with widely different carries isn't valid.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:09 pm to djsdawg
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Until you can understand the difference between the I and the wish bone, you would be better off without the empty insults.
Says the guy using scheme to degrade a running back while ignoring small things like offensive line play. Unless I'm mistaken, Herschel was running behind a line that had 4 or 5 future NFL starters.
Now go sit down in the corner and think about that.
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He had what, 80 yards before that touch.
146-83 = 80. Close.
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How many yards did LF have rushing?
"CHUBB'S SHITTY GAME WAS LESS SHITTY THAN FOURNETTE'S SHITTY GAME!!!!!!"
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:51 pm to RB10
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Says the guy using scheme to degrade a running back while ignoring small things like offensive line play. Unless I'm mistaken, Herschel was running behind a line that had 4 or 5 future NFL starters.
How can I ignore something you haven't brought up? It's up to you to provide arguments against mine, and this is your first attempt.
Too bad. Uga and Au both only had one really good OL that was a long tenured starter in the nfl, guy McIntyre and Steven Wallace.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 3:21 pm to djsdawg
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Too bad. Uga and Au both only had one really good OL that was a long tenured starter in the nfl, guy McIntyre and Steven Wallace.
I didn't say anything about "long tenured".
Nat Hudson played 16 games in the NFL in 1981. Wayne Radloff played 5 seasons, and that's just from the 1980 roster.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:02 pm to RB10
80 yards vs Bama's D is a shitty game?
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:10 pm to BoarEd
Arkansas could put up points last year as the state of MS knows all too well. Mizzou's defense also looked worse than it was because its offense couldn't move the ball downfield at all.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:42 pm to deeprig9
This is all irrelevant, as they're both great backs and either school base would be glad to have one or the other. It's fortunate that they both landed in their state schools. As far as Fournette being the "latest media darling," well, whatever. It's not a crime being likable.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:38 pm to RB10
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long tenured".
Nat Hudson played 16 games in the NFL in 1981. Wayne Radloff played 5 seasons, and that's just from the 1980 roster.
Doesn't look like a big difference nfl wise. I also believe both rbs had 4 1st team all sec OL 80-82 and 83-85.
As for fellow rbs, No comparison in who had better backfield talent to share the load with.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:41 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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80 yards vs Bama's D is a shitty game?
Do you need a calculator to figure out he didn't have 80 yards before his big run?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:45 pm to RB10
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Do you need a calculator to figure out he didn't have 80 yards before his big run?
If you take away Chubb's longest run, then you have to take away Fournette's longest run.
Either way Chubb had more than 4x more yards against Bama.
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