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re: Chubb vs Fournette 2016
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:56 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:56 pm to djsdawg
Leonard Fournette is a better running back than Nick Chubb. He has been far more healthy than has Chubb and played in a much larger sample size to confirm his superiority. He has rushed for more yards than Nick Chubb for his career and last year as well.
When LF7 was injured versus Arkansas, LSU Fans were disallowed to use that point when comparing Chubb to LF7. I'll give no quarter to UGA in return as turnabout is fair -and logical - play.
LF7>Chubb
In fact, the very reality that LF7 walks amongst us while Chubb is probably carted around inside two sets of specially designed, Amazon Basics Bubble Wrap confirms the very real, logical fact that Fournette's total output and current level of ability, value and worth as a player is much, much higher than that of Chubb as a football player, tailback, etc.
When LF7 was injured versus Arkansas, LSU Fans were disallowed to use that point when comparing Chubb to LF7. I'll give no quarter to UGA in return as turnabout is fair -and logical - play.
LF7>Chubb
In fact, the very reality that LF7 walks amongst us while Chubb is probably carted around inside two sets of specially designed, Amazon Basics Bubble Wrap confirms the very real, logical fact that Fournette's total output and current level of ability, value and worth as a player is much, much higher than that of Chubb as a football player, tailback, etc.
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 6:21 pm to GFunk
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When LF7 was injured versus Arkansas, LSU Fans were disallowed to use that point when comparing Chubb to LF7.
Explain this further. I don't recall seeing it.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:29 am to djsdawg
My eyes, intuition,and bases say that Fournette is ever so slightly better than Chubb. Sta s against common opponents say that Chubb is better. This is a coonass board so I guess Fournette wins because draft projections and swamprats.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:30 am to djsdawg
Honestly. Here is the ONLY comparison that matters. 2015. Both starters. All the way to the game before Chubb got hurt (he only played 2 snaps that game, we will discount it)
Fournette
Total Yards - 864
Rushing TDs - 11
Total Carry - 99
Yard Per Rush - 8.7
Opponents of Note
Miss St. (9-4)
Auburn (7-6)
Sryacuse (4-8)
Nick Chubb
Total Yards - 745
Rushing TDs - 7
Total Carry - 91
Yards Per Rush - 8.1
Opponents of Note :
South Carolina (3-9)
Bama (14-1)
Before we get into comparing the two statistically , you can point to the Alabama game and say Fournette is a bad back. I hate to break it to ya, but with no passing game, no one in the WORLD could run into 9-11 guys in the box. Put whoever you want back there. Put Adrian Peterson right now back there and he wont be able to do anything when he is getting hit right when he gets the ball.
That game had everything to do with Little Nicky stealing Les's soul. Its like Les wants to prove to the world that he can beat Saban at his game. Adapt or die. Les chose the latter.
Anyways.
So Fournette has Chubb, WHILE both were healthy by :
119 Rushing Yards
4 Rushing Touchdowns
8 more carries
0.6 YPC
He did all of this.... in 1 less game. Thats right folks! I counted the cancelled game vs McNeese in Fournettes 5 games. So he did all of this in 4 games compared to Chubb's 5. Don't talk about "stat padding" either or 2nd running backs. Fournet had long runs of 71, 62, and 75 in 3 of those 4 games. Those didn't come in garbage time either.
LSU
Total Yards - 0 - 0 | 19 / 107 | 29 / 183 | 16 / 024 | 24 / 158
Fournette Yards - 0 / 0 | 28 / 159 | 19 / 228 | 26 / 244 | 26 / 233
Georgia
Total Yards - 10 - 133 | 22 / 092 | 17 / 087 | 18 / 130 | 18 / 047
Chubb Yards - 16 / 120 | 19 / 189 | 21 / 159 | 15 / 131 | 20 / 146
Above are the game logs for each player + their team.
Fournette accounted for 64% of his team's yards.
Chub accounted for 60%
If you bring Chubb up to 64% as well, that would only be an additional 49 yards. He would still be behind Fournettes overall yards through those 5 games by 70 yards... in one less game.
There is absolutely no way you can spin the stats at all to favor Chubb. You can't really look at overall statistics due to the fact that neither one of them started in 2014 til towards the end of the year.
On top of this, you still have to take into account that Chubb is coming back from a major injury. Will he ever be the same back? There are just too many questions surrounding his health and bounce back ability. Even if he returned 100% (which he should as he didn't tear the ACL) Id still give the head to head to Fournette based on the body of work where both players were present.
Fournette
Total Yards - 864
Rushing TDs - 11
Total Carry - 99
Yard Per Rush - 8.7
Opponents of Note
Miss St. (9-4)
Auburn (7-6)
Sryacuse (4-8)
Nick Chubb
Total Yards - 745
Rushing TDs - 7
Total Carry - 91
Yards Per Rush - 8.1
Opponents of Note :
South Carolina (3-9)
Bama (14-1)
Before we get into comparing the two statistically , you can point to the Alabama game and say Fournette is a bad back. I hate to break it to ya, but with no passing game, no one in the WORLD could run into 9-11 guys in the box. Put whoever you want back there. Put Adrian Peterson right now back there and he wont be able to do anything when he is getting hit right when he gets the ball.
That game had everything to do with Little Nicky stealing Les's soul. Its like Les wants to prove to the world that he can beat Saban at his game. Adapt or die. Les chose the latter.
Anyways.
So Fournette has Chubb, WHILE both were healthy by :
119 Rushing Yards
4 Rushing Touchdowns
8 more carries
0.6 YPC
He did all of this.... in 1 less game. Thats right folks! I counted the cancelled game vs McNeese in Fournettes 5 games. So he did all of this in 4 games compared to Chubb's 5. Don't talk about "stat padding" either or 2nd running backs. Fournet had long runs of 71, 62, and 75 in 3 of those 4 games. Those didn't come in garbage time either.
LSU
Total Yards - 0 - 0 | 19 / 107 | 29 / 183 | 16 / 024 | 24 / 158
Fournette Yards - 0 / 0 | 28 / 159 | 19 / 228 | 26 / 244 | 26 / 233
Georgia
Total Yards - 10 - 133 | 22 / 092 | 17 / 087 | 18 / 130 | 18 / 047
Chubb Yards - 16 / 120 | 19 / 189 | 21 / 159 | 15 / 131 | 20 / 146
Above are the game logs for each player + their team.
Fournette accounted for 64% of his team's yards.
Chub accounted for 60%
If you bring Chubb up to 64% as well, that would only be an additional 49 yards. He would still be behind Fournettes overall yards through those 5 games by 70 yards... in one less game.
There is absolutely no way you can spin the stats at all to favor Chubb. You can't really look at overall statistics due to the fact that neither one of them started in 2014 til towards the end of the year.
On top of this, you still have to take into account that Chubb is coming back from a major injury. Will he ever be the same back? There are just too many questions surrounding his health and bounce back ability. Even if he returned 100% (which he should as he didn't tear the ACL) Id still give the head to head to Fournette based on the body of work where both players were present.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 8:35 am
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:32 am to MrMojoRisin
You do realize that Alabama has almost as many swamps right? I believe they have upwards of 100 different named swamps there.
Found you a list.
LINK
Found you a list.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:29 am to GFunk
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He has been far more healthy than has Chubb and played in a much larger sample size to confirm his superiority
There it is again. One freak turn of the leg, and Chubb is "injury prone" and Fournette is "far more healthy". It's such BS. I know this is basically an LSU site, but y'all act ridiculous.
1 more month and Chubb will shut everyone up.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:04 am to DrewDawg13
He will return to form DrewDawg, but he won't be better than Fournette. Its just not happening.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:31 pm to BDJ
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Don't talk about "stat padding" either or 2nd running backs.
Why? Sony taking scoring opportunities away from Chubb is a legit point.
We can also discuss rush d ranks and how chubb faced the 2 toughest by far in this time period. It's impressive that didn't drop chubbs ypc any more than it did.
Both backs became starters on the same date in 2014 but we know why you want to ignore that.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:43 am to BDJ
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He will return to form DrewDawg, but he won't be better than Fournette. Its just not happening.
You have zero way of knowing this. I think he will be every bit as good if not better.
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