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re: Can someone tell me why the SEC wants OU?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:41 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:41 am to JesusQuintana
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I get it, and maybe I'm wrong, but I dknow my see adding ANY program and calling ESPN and asking for more money.
ESPN is going to have to renegotiate all their contracts...its less so college than it is their deals with the NFL and NBA. Their business model is under pressure and they have way too many fixed costs. There are too many new mediums out there that compete now with the traditional subscription model. So I think TV contracts, in general, will be under pressure across the board.
One thing I think is consistent no much how technology changes is that content is premium. SEC has the brand and the content. I think OU would be additive as they are a premium brand. It's better that the SEC fold them in than the PAC or B1G. It's a natural tie-in I/m/o
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:45 am to JesusQuintana
I think there's just a lot of folks that want to sound like they know something. The SEC may want Oklahomo, maybe they don't. With the addition of aTm, adding OU isn't much of a stretch if coupled with adding another school in the east.
Who knows what is actually important, but to me it sounds like some of the entanglements OU has with the B12 would be a huge obstacle to it ever happening, even if the SEC actually did want them some Chokelahoma.
Do not want. Adding aTm and SJWu didn't help the Hogs prospects any in my opinion. Can't imagine adding yet another doorway to the SEC, in yet another neighboring state, could possibly be a good thing for Arkansas.
Who knows what is actually important, but to me it sounds like some of the entanglements OU has with the B12 would be a huge obstacle to it ever happening, even if the SEC actually did want them some Chokelahoma.
Do not want. Adding aTm and SJWu didn't help the Hogs prospects any in my opinion. Can't imagine adding yet another doorway to the SEC, in yet another neighboring state, could possibly be a good thing for Arkansas.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:50 am to 14&Counting
OU shares a small population state with OSU.
OU is no Notre Dame in terms of national following.
SEC passes on OU.
OU is no Notre Dame in terms of national following.
SEC passes on OU.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:55 am to FishFearMe
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OU shares a small population state with OSU.
OU has a large a following in DFW as Aggie and a huge viewership in Texas. You know this...it would help lock down DFW (4th largest metro area) and make the SEC the brand in Texas...it would put the University of Texas further out on an island which I would think would be an attractive proposition for Aggies.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 10:57 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:57 am to 14&Counting
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I think OU would be additive as they are a premium brand. It's better that the SEC fold them in than the PAC or B1G. It's a natural tie-in I/m/o
I think you are right on the first part and wrong on the second part.
What makes the SEC Network worth so much more money than other conference networks is the fact that there is a real passion with SEC fans and between SEC programs. Part of that is natural and intense rivalries that bring the fans back year after year. When the SEC expanded and added A&M they added an old rival of Arkansas and LSU. That tie was an important reason of why A&M got the invite above and beyond the whole tv markets situation. Plus the A&M/Mizzou addition didn't change rivalries. If you add OU and then Bama is forced to the East then rivalries across the SEC will change.
OU is rivals with NO ONE in the SEC and there is no one that they could build a regional rivalry with outside of Arky and maybe A&M. Bolting them onto the SEC could be subtraction by addition if the SEC has to deal with a schedule that divides up current rivalries in order to have divisions that are somewhat balanced. OU is a sure-fire addition in the brand column, but it could be a volatile mix to the chemistry without any of the academic boost that Mizzou gave the SEC.
Meanwhile the PAC Network is starving for content and they could really really use some brands like OU and/or Texas when they go back to the tv negotiating table. OU could get more value working with the PAC, and could ensure a OSU tag-along because they would be more desperate. The B1G is also a more natural fit because they have OU's most historic rival- Nebraska- already and the division that Nebraska is in could use a little more passion and excitement.
So out of the three conferences, the SEC has the most to risk and the least to gain adding OU compared to the other two. OU fans want the SEC the most because they have seen the boost is have given A&M, but their wants can't change the facts. Their program is more likely to end up elsewhere.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:59 am to troyt37
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Do not want. Adding aTm and SJWu didn't help the Hogs prospects any in my opinion.
bullshite. We opened the door on Texas recruiting for yall after Texas closed it decades ago. LSU and Bama are going crazy picking off top Texas talent, your coach is just too fat and lazy to do anything like that.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:01 am to JesusQuintana
Why are you making this assumption? OU might want the SEC but the SEC doesn't and won't need or have them
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:04 am to LSUNV
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Why are you making this assumption?
Why is this stooge pimping OU? Finebaum is the place to get SEC rumors, no matter how inane, started. But why?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:08 am to Vecchio Cane
Finebaum has become the tabloids of the SEC
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:08 am to cardboardboxer
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I think you are right on the first part and wrong on the second part.
Nothing personal, but I find the arguments against adding OU by Aggies and Mizzou fans to be disingenuous. You guys have played them historically, you recruit against them currently, and would be a natural fit. OU vs Aggie, Mizzou, Arky, and then LSU is great geographic rivalry alignment. Think about the other sports as well....Aggies and Mizzou fans don't want another former member competing with them, especially one as formidable on the field as OU.
I agree with you that it will take a another schedule re-alignment to accommodate them....but the rotation is already jacked-up. Mizzou is already on an island and it would help them integrate into the conference. Auburn is on the record about wanting to be in the East. Bama may to have to follow them but we have more connections to the East than we do to the West.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:10 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:16 am to JesusQuintana
OU is a national name. Adding teams like OU is far better for future contracts than teams Missouri. Not trying to crap on Mizzou but from a national perspective OU is a much more respected name that people want to watch.
With TV contracts having issues due to cord cutting it probably doesn't make sense in the short term due to uncertainty. That said, you would want them anyhow if you think expanding to 16 teams or more is inevitable. You want to pick up good teams and not get stuck with the leftovers.
With TV contracts having issues due to cord cutting it probably doesn't make sense in the short term due to uncertainty. That said, you would want them anyhow if you think expanding to 16 teams or more is inevitable. You want to pick up good teams and not get stuck with the leftovers.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:17 am to 14&Counting
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Nothing personal, but I find the arguments against adding OU by Aggies and Mizzou fans to be disingenuous.
What about the arguments by most all the other SEC fans that dont want OU?
It's ironic that you discredit an argument as "disingenuous" simply based on fandom.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:18 am to arwicklu
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You want to pick up good teams and not get stuck with the leftovers.
Exactly: if we have the opportunity to grab OU, then we should do it. They are a marquee name. Grab them and sort the rest of it out later.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:19 am to kilo
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What about the arguments by most all the other SEC fans that dont want OU?
Really makes no sense. College football is going to expand. Who would we get better than OU to improve the brand.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:22 am to JesusQuintana
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I get it, and maybe I'm wrong, but I dknow my see adding ANY program and calling ESPN and asking for more money.
ESPN will be spun off from Disney and left to die a very public death.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:24 am to arwicklu
for the record, im not against adding OU at all. I just think the SEC will make a move eastward when its all said and done.
I was simply pointing out the irony of a guy arguing a point made by someone of a certain fanbase is disingenuous just because of their fandom.
I was simply pointing out the irony of a guy arguing a point made by someone of a certain fanbase is disingenuous just because of their fandom.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:24 am to kilo
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It's ironic that you discredit an argument as "disingenuous" simply based on fandom.
Everytime we discuss OU, which could be a very real possibility, Aggy and Mizzou fans are usually the first ones to pile in and tell us what a bad idea it is...I realize it may seem like its in your interest for it not to happen, but I think OU would lift this conference boat we are all in.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:27 am to 14&Counting
i think its easier for you to wave your hand and dismiss someone's points by saying its because of their fan status instead of having to tackle the points they make.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:28 am to JesusQuintana
The SEC does not want OU. Or Texas. We got what we needed from the Big 12. Don't need any more from that conference.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:28 am to 14&Counting
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Everytime we discuss OU, which could be a very real possibility, Aggy and Mizzou fans are usually the first ones to pile in and tell us what a bad idea it is...I realize it may seem like its in your interest for it not to happen
This cat has figured it out.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:30 am
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