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re: Bo Scarborough loss in terms of outcome- talking point or big deal?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:39 am to coachcrisp
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:39 am to coachcrisp
quote:You honestly need to blame that on Sark. Harris was running the ball effectively and breaking tackles as well. He was averaging 4.8 a carry.......
Do you agree that the important aspect would have been his affect on the way Alabama executed their 4th quarter plan?
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:53 am to thelawnwranglers
I don't think it was a huge deal honestly. They had started to stack the box and limit our running game anyways, and nothing was stopping Deshaun Watson in the 4th quarter. Sucks Bo got hurt but I say the outcome would not have been much different.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:56 am to thelawnwranglers
BoScar would have probably been worth 3 more points and maybe 5-6 more minutes.
Make of it what you will...
Make of it what you will...
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:58 am to thelawnwranglers
Not that big of a deal. Harris or Jacobs could have filled in and done well. Not sure why we didn't give them the opportunity to do so.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:01 am to chattabama
Bo's runs
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Sark abandoned the formula Kiffin used to close games. This is on Sark, not Bo's injury. Bo was not shredding Clemson. His two big runs were on great blocking.
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Sark abandoned the formula Kiffin used to close games. This is on Sark, not Bo's injury. Bo was not shredding Clemson. His two big runs were on great blocking.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 11:03 am
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:12 am to lsupride87
He was dragging defenders, getting at least 3-4 yards on every carry. Dude is a brute and wears down defenses, Harris and Jacobs don't have that same effect imo
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:17 am to lsupride87
It's hard to judge how a RB would do based on five carries. Harris might have been successful had he had more carries. Or he might have continued the 2 yard specials. But even those 2-4 yard carries take time off the clock.
I'm all for innovative offenses, but sometimes I wish we'd get back to what made Alabama a dynasty to begin with: kill the clock, grind it out offense with a stout defense.
I'm all for innovative offenses, but sometimes I wish we'd get back to what made Alabama a dynasty to begin with: kill the clock, grind it out offense with a stout defense.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:19 am to Nukeese
quote:38% of his carries were under 3 yards
He was dragging defenders, getting at least 3-4 yards on every carry
Bo's runs
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:20 am to thelawnwranglers
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Is there really that big of a drop off for second team or more a talking point?
As far as bruising backs go? Absolutely. A big dropoff. Our other two guys (from this season) are either a scatback type (Harris) or a lighter version of Mark Ingram (Jacobs).
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
If you take out the two long TD runs, he was getting about 2.2 yards per carry.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:30 am to BammerDelendaEst
quote:Bama fans will attack you here, but it is true. And it one be one thing if the TD runs were based on Bo making a great run/read, but it was more on the line. I think Harris or Jacobs has those same runs IMHO
If you take out the two long TD runs, he was getting about 2.2 yards per carry.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:32 am to BammerDelendaEst
Brilliant analysis. If you take away Renfrow's two TDs, Bama is National Champions.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:35 am to JuiceTerry
quote:I knew you would do this
Brilliant analysis. If you take away Renfrow's two TDs, Bama is National Champions.
I understand your point, but Bo's carry log shows he was not dominating Clemson in the least.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:40 am to lsupride87
It's not even my opinion that Bo going down ended Bama's chances at all. But that shite is stupid. He rushed for a hundred and 2 TDs in 2 1/2 quarters. Period.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:44 am to JuiceTerry
quote:No
He rushed for a hundred
Yes. His stats are his stats. I am simply speaking to the premise of the OP
If Bo was consistently ripping hard fought 5-7 yard runs, I would say him going down was huge.
But he didnt. He was bottled up for less than 4 yards on most of his carries. And the two big gainers he had, I thought were great called stretch plays that were blocked perfectly, where any of yalls running backs would have had success. The run game simply wasnt there on a consistent basis.
So that is why I do not think him going out cost Bama the game.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:57 am to lsupride87
last year, we lost alexander, shaq was banged up, mike williams was out for yr injured, and deon cain was suspended for game. bama won. and not because those guys were out. your assessment was spot on. he had a couple of big runs but noting much else. he runs brutally and could have helped band aid the bleeding a little. but, dw was not going to be denied. biggest play was renfrows tackle on strip. bama could not score the td and settled for 3
Posted on 1/11/17 at 3:21 pm to JuiceTerry
I was refuting this assertion by one of your compatriots:
"He was dragging defenders, getting at least 3-4 yards on every carry."
"He was dragging defenders, getting at least 3-4 yards on every carry."
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:36 pm to BammerDelendaEst
What nobody is getting is that when you run the ball repeatedly, the defense gets worn down and demoralized. When you pass on 1st down, get hit in the backfield on a run blitz on second down, and then throw a screen on 3rd - that was our offense for 3 quarters. That's not Clemson shutting down the run. We had a plethora of offensive possessions in the first 3 quarters and Bo got only 16 carries
Out of those 16 sporadic carries, 10 were successful at 3+ yards. 2 went for 62 yards and 2 TDs.
Sark not leaning on Bo was as big a factor as him getting hurt
Out of those 16 sporadic carries, 10 were successful at 3+ yards. 2 went for 62 yards and 2 TDs.
Sark not leaning on Bo was as big a factor as him getting hurt
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:42 pm to thatdude1985
Ok. Keep melting.
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