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re: Bigger meltdown on its way?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:32 pm to jjbodean1970
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:32 pm to jjbodean1970
so pretty much you don't think there are tapes and that's the key?
or if there are tapes you still have a feeling there is reasonable doubt? (because there is no paper trail with a tape, just represented intent or something)
I'm trying to get a handle on what you really think here
or if there are tapes you still have a feeling there is reasonable doubt? (because there is no paper trail with a tape, just represented intent or something)
I'm trying to get a handle on what you really think here
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Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:35 pm to molsusports
quote:i am presuming innocence until i see something with much more substance than just "unnamed sources".
so pretty much you don't think there are tapes and that's the key?
or if there are tapes you still have a feeling there is reasonable doubt? (because there is no paper trail with a tape, just represented intent or something)
I'm trying to get a handle on what you really think he
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:36 pm to jjbodean1970
There seems to be a handler who contacted John Bond and asked for 180k... Oh wait it Bond heard from a guy who heard from a guy.
Cam seems to have cheated multiple times and faced expulsion while at UF...Oh wait UF denies this
Multiple phone conversations were reported. If there were tapes, cam wouldn`t of been playing. The SEC would be retarded if they sat on them. WAIT I got it, some a-hole was holding onto them until the opportune moment. According to an unnamed source, Urban Meyer is negotiating the sale of these tapes to tmz.
Cam seems to have cheated multiple times and faced expulsion while at UF...Oh wait UF denies this
Multiple phone conversations were reported. If there were tapes, cam wouldn`t of been playing. The SEC would be retarded if they sat on them. WAIT I got it, some a-hole was holding onto them until the opportune moment. According to an unnamed source, Urban Meyer is negotiating the sale of these tapes to tmz.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:39 pm to jjbodean1970
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i am presuming innocence until i see something with much more substance than just "unnamed sources".
mmmk, but what would constitute evidence to you?
do you have to just show he asked for money - or do you have to prove he received money from Auburn?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:42 pm to molsusports
quote:correct me if i am wrong, but just asking for money would still be a violation of ncaa rules and could cause them to rule him ineligible. tapes would be required in that case, not just an msu boosters word against his.
mmmk, but what would constitute evidence to you?
do you have to just show he asked for money - or do you have to prove he received money from Auburn?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:44 pm to jjbodean1970
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correct me if i am wrong, but just asking for money would still be a violation of ncaa rules
as i understand it... just asking is not a violation
even if they have him on tape doing exactly this they would still have to do some digging to show the paper trail (unless he admitted guilt)
this is why people who think there is evidence think this is taking a while
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:45 pm to jjbodean1970
I`m not sure if asking for money is even a violation. I heard Dan Patrick say he didn`t think it was, but he wasn`t sure either.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:45 pm to molsusports
quote:i think it will take a while either way. anyone who thinks there will be a quick resolution is dreaming. we're talking about the ncaa and fbi here, not exactly known for their speed.
as i understand it... just asking is not a violation
even if they have him on tape doing exactly this they would still have to do some digging to show the paper trail (unless he admitted guilt)
this is why people who think there is evidence think this is taking a while
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:46 pm to molsusports
I'd like to see the money trail before I condemn the kid/AU/Daddy-rape.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:50 pm to wardamnamerica
quote:if thats the case, then youll have to show me the money.
I`m not sure if asking for money is even a violation.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:51 pm to CamdenTiger
you shouldn't worry about Cam
He's going pro - whatever consequences that hit will fall overwhelmingly on Auburn, not him
He's going pro - whatever consequences that hit will fall overwhelmingly on Auburn, not him
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:52 pm to molsusports
quote:i'm sure thats reassuring to the auburn faithful
you shouldn't worry about Cam
He's going pro - whatever consequences that hit will fall overwhelmingly on Auburn, not him
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:53 pm to jjbodean1970
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I`m not sure if asking for money is even a violation.
if thats the case, then youll have to show me the money.
so pretty much you don't care if something is probably true... you're mostly just in favor of lawyering up
Posted on 11/10/10 at 10:58 pm to molsusports
quote:probably true based on what exactly? hearsay?
so pretty much you don't care if something is probably true... you're mostly just in favor of lawyering up
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:03 pm to jjbodean1970
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probably true based on what exactly?
?
you just said you don't care if Cam asked for money... you'd need to see evidence that he received money
So, it sounds like you don't care if he's dirty - you just want to put up a good enough defense to prevent Auburn from getting nailed.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:04 pm to wardamnamerica
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Anyways, I`m feelin awesome about everything.
You're either lying through your few remaining teeth or you are one of the stupidest multicellular organisms on Earth.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:05 pm to molsusports
quote:and you said that asking for money wasnt against the rules and we all know that receiving money is against the rules. so, yes, i would be bothered by him doing something against the rules and not bothered by him not breaking the rules.
you just said you don't care if Cam asked for money... you'd need to see evidence that he received money
if he doesnt break the rule, how do you consider him "dirty"?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:08 pm to jjbodean1970
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if he doesnt break the rule, how do you consider him "dirty"?
That seems like a softball question. Because he intended to break the rules of course
Do you consider a guy who asks for money to play college football clean? If so, I hope you're unusual
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:10 pm to molsusports
quote:so youd prosecute him for the intent to break the rules, even though its perfectly ok and not against the rules for him to do so?
That seems like a softball question. Because he intended to break the rules of course
Do you consider a guy who asks for money to play college football clean? If so, I hope you're unusual
gotcha. we obviously see things differently.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:11 pm to wardamnamerica
I wouldn't be PO'ed, I'd be relieved that the SEC isn't gonna be embarrassed by needing to vacate a possible SEC Championship, a possible BCS Championship, and a possible Heisman.
I was actually pulling for Aubie after they beat LSU, to finally win themselves a natty title in the modern era. To give the SEC five straight, and by a fourth team during that span.
Now, I'm scared that Aubie could win those things, then need vacate at a later date, if proven guilty..and humiliate the SEC.
I was actually pulling for Aubie after they beat LSU, to finally win themselves a natty title in the modern era. To give the SEC five straight, and by a fourth team during that span.
Now, I'm scared that Aubie could win those things, then need vacate at a later date, if proven guilty..and humiliate the SEC.
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