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re: Better QB: Nick Marshall or Blake Sims?

Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:09 pm to
Marshall is 16-2 as a starter. Kenny Trill and Sims can STFU til they put a few more on the W side.
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:09 pm to
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Blake would be starting at QB at Auburn.


If by 'starting' you mean 'behind Jeremy Johnson on the two deep' then you are correct.

The Sims I see still throws a lot of high passes, etc. You guys act like he's infallible. You shouldn't believe everything Verne tells you.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:10 pm to
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I think Sims could run it, I don't think Sims could run the zone read like Marshall was in the latter half of last season, when it was pretty devastating.



I do if that was the offense he was in. Marshall is good at it, but as Auburn fans will see Malzahn is going to make a lot of QBs look better than they are. Much like A&M. The system just works for QBs. Cam is the exception as he is a 250 pound freak.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:10 pm to
depends on the system. I don't NM would do well in Alabama's system.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:10 pm to
Marshal is not a good QB. He is a tailback chuncking a few passes.

Marshall is a better IPhone receiver.
Posted by TiggerWoods
Auburn
Member since Nov 2010
3977 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:11 pm to
Lol no, just no. Sims had wide open Cooper to pad his stats. If Duke Williams catches his wide open drop Marshall's stays are elite last week as well.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:14 pm to
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I do if that was the offense he was in. Marshall is good at it, but as Auburn fans will see Malzahn is going to make a lot of QBs look better than they are. Much like A&M. The system just works for QBs. Cam is the exception as he is a 250 pound freak.



If you're saying that Sims, given the time in the offense, could run the read like Marshall does, then I don't have an issue with it. I don't know enough about Sims to really know if that is truly accurate, as I think Marshall is probably the better athlete, but I assume Sims has the tools to do well under Gus.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:19 pm to
The fact is, Blakesiah could do everything Nick does at Auburn. Nick could not do the same at Bama. We've seen Blake run zone read. He does it well. Now he's mastering a pro style WCO. It's fun to watch.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:21 pm to
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S.E.C. Crazy


Worst poster on the website, checking in
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35808 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:23 pm to
Dak Prescott
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:23 pm to
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The fact is, Blakesiah could do everything Nick does at Auburn.










The funniest part is that I bet you actually believe that. Gold, Jerry.

Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3349 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:25 pm to
As of right now I'll say Marshall but it is hard to compare guys from such different systems.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14243 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:25 pm to
Sims.

Jeremy Johnson may be better than Marshall.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15874 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:29 pm to
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The funniest part is that I bet you actually believe that. Gold, Jerry.




what do you think is so hard about AU's system? In one summer Gus taught it to a converted DB with a room temperature IQ. Do you think Blake doesnt have the physical ability to run the plays or he doesnt have the mental ability to learn the system?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:31 pm to
The one thing Nick isn't really getting credit for is being clutch as hell. Even as an Auburn fan, it always amazes me that he is so collected, when he really doesn't give off the team leader vibe at all (not that he's a bad leader).

Sims hasn't shown anything like that yet, nor has Jeremy Johnson. So while I have no issue in admitting that Nick Marshall is limited in his ceiling most likely, and that JJ and/or Sims may pass him, I think he deserves a lot of credit for it at the moment.
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Blake doesnt have the physical ability to run the plays or he doesnt have the mental ability to learn the system?


When I see Blake do this, maybe I'll believe you:



But he can't, and won't.

Nick is a homerun threat on his feet. Blake can scramble. Simple as that.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

what do you think is so hard about AU's system? In one summer Gus taught it to a converted DB with a room temperature IQ. Do you think Blake doesnt have the physical ability to run the plays or he doesnt have the mental ability to learn the system?



Well, when Sims runs a textbook zone read like Marshall can, you'll have your answer. It's effective, and lots of QBs do it, but Marshall has been the standard for 18 months in CFB. I think Sims can probably do it well, but I don't know that we'll be able to get an answer on whether he could do it as well as NM or not.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
Nice gifs and emoticons. In other words, you have no rebuttal.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19697 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:35 pm to
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When I see Blake do this, maybe I'll believe you:


here you go

and another
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:37 pm to
Coker has the Heisman wrapped up
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