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re: Best Secondary in the SEC?

Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:26 am to
Posted by mattytiger123
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2014
3022 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:26 am to
quote:

VH3
Jalen Tabor


quote:

It's not really close

LSU has a deeper and better group of safety's. And White is a lot closer to Hargreaves than you think. Expect Toliver and Donte Jackson to become freshmen all Americans. Good luck go Florida though
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:27 am to
LSU > Florida
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25277 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:27 am to
Splitting hairs to pick the best, but:

1. UF - VH3 is the GOAT and shuts down half the field
2. LSU - Good at all positions in the back 4
3. OM - 2 new CBs but OM thinks they are NFL locks, safeties already proven as good players
4. MSU - Good CBs
5. UT - Cam Sutton is probably the 2nd best CB behind VH3
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:30 am to
Arkansas' will end up being top 3.
Posted by NamariTiger
Flower Mound, Texas
Member since Jun 2014
17746 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:30 am to
VH3 got abused by Amari Cooper. Cooper didn't catch a single ball against Tre White. Vernon only gets more recognition because he was a higher level recruit and gets picks. White locks down the wideouts to the point where QBS don't throw to him at all.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:33 am to
I don't expect any of you to believe at this point, but Auburn may have the best starting 4.

CB- Blake Countess, 2 time Al Big Ten
S- Tray Matthews
S- Jonathan Ford, leading tackler in 2014
CB- Jonathan Jones, All SEC
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:34 am to
LSU has the best starting four brah.
Posted by mattytiger123
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2014
3022 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:35 am to
quote:

VH3 got abused by Amari Cooper. Cooper didn't catch a single ball against Tre White. Vernon only gets more recognition because he was a higher level recruit and gets picks. White locks down the wideouts to the point where QBS don't throw to him at all.

This.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:35 am to
quote:

To me, Tennessee is kind of on the outside looking in as it pertains to overall secondary talent. They're above every other SEC team, but below Alabama, LSU, Florida, and Ole Miss at the time.


I like where we are. Cam Sutton is a lockdown Corner, we've got a few good options for the other corner spot. For our safeties, our starters both have 30+ games under their belt, but their backups are probably more talented and will get some solid PT this year. I like it because we should be very solid this year and it also sets us up to look good back there next season as well.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:38 am to
quote:

LSU has the best starting four brah.


Well LSU is DBU. But Auburn does deserve to be in the discussion. We've got a good group, but our guys are getting overlooked because of the issues AU has had in the secondary since Tubby left.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:41 am to
Your guys are getting overlooked because y'all were one of the worst secondaries in the conference last fall baw and even monumental improvement would place y'all firmly in the middle of the pack rather than at the forefront.
Posted by circlerebel17
Member since Oct 2014
473 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:41 am to
Florida does have a solid Secondary

Ole Miss is still strong with Tee Shepard healthy

Mississippi State lost a lot of talent


LSU takes the cake
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Your guys are getting overlooked because y'all were one of the worst secondaries in the conference last fall baw and even monumental improvement would place y'all firmly in the middle of the pack rather than at the forefront.


Auburn only allowed 4.5 more passing yards per game than Bama did last year, baw. Nobody is questioning any talk of them being one of the best units, but the same obstacle is somehow too much for AU to overcome?

And yes, there will be monumental improvement. We had a 2 time all-conference grad transfer CB, and a blue chip prototypical SS that already has SEC starting experience to go along with the all-conference CB and team leading tackler at S that we already had.
Lack of pass rush in 2014 also hurt the secondary big time, and that will be back this year in force.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 10:59 am
Posted by CrimsonCowboy
Member since Sep 2014
516 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:57 am to
lsu seems to be the annual fav, but ima go with uf this year.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25277 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:57 am to
quote:

H3 got abused by Amari Cooper. Cooper didn't catch a single ball against Tre White


Different games/scenarios. UF as a team was also a shitshow and 1 bad game doesn't mean VH3 is worse than anyone.

If you want to look at better data, VH3 graded higher than White according to Pro Football Focus, who does legit research other than apples and oranges comparisons.

Senquez Golson and Cam Sutton were graded higher than White last year as well, so according to professional analysts, White isn't even a Top 2 CB in the SEC coming into the 2015 season.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:00 am to
quote:

lol what?
I'm sorry I forgot to mention
Florida. I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings. I honestly would put Florida's 2nd or 3rd I guess.
Posted by Uncle Luke
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
439 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:00 am to
LSU and it aint close. Just wondering, did any of the guys saying Florida watch the Bama vs Florida game last year?
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20362 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:01 am to
quote:

lol what?

You're probably trolling but Pruitt had absolute crap to work with and we were still one the top pass defending defenses in the SEC (2nd in yards, rating, Yards/Att).
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Florida.

VH3
Jalen Tabor
Quincy Wilson
Keanu Neal
Brian Poole
Duke Dawson
Marcell Harris


you forgot Marcus Maye
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1566 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:09 am to
I think it's probably a toss up between Florida and LSU with us in 3rd and Bama 4th. Bama's corners struggled last year but Bama always seems to have a freshman who struggles and then becomes an All American and 1st round pick so it would not surprise me to see the same happen with Tony Brown. I'd probably take Florida at 1 just because VH3. I know he got abused by Amari Cooper, but if in 2 years of SEC football people can name 1 guy that got the best of you, that's pretty good. When that 1 guy is one of the best receivers in SEC history, I'd say that's ok. LSU fans talk about shutting Cooper down, but he still had a good game against them as did many receivers in the SEC, (Jameon Lewis, Sammie Coates, Demarcus Robinson)
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