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re: Barnery Farrar, as made famous on draft night, is OUT
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:15 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:15 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:I tipped my waitress and gave her a nice little pat on the tooshie.
Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:17 am to RT1941
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I tipped my waitress and gave her a nice little pat on the tooshie.
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RT1941
You, sir, are a fine American.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:22 am to tomsellecksmustache
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tomsellecksmustache
The comparison softball is still sitting there, on a tee, just waiting to be knocked out of the park
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:23 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:28 am to Herm Edwards
The absolute best part of this entire saga is the Ole Miss fans continuously saying something along the lines of:
"If it was really as bad as you are saying, don't you think the administration would have..."
"Heads would have already rolled if..."
"It's not that big of a deal because Ole Miss hasn't yet..."
Each step of the way, they are clinging to the lack of action on the part of the Ole Miss administration as "proof" that things aren't as bad as they seem. Yet each time something more comes out, the OM administration is looking more and more inept.
"If it was really as bad as you are saying, don't you think the administration would have..."
"Heads would have already rolled if..."
"It's not that big of a deal because Ole Miss hasn't yet..."
Each step of the way, they are clinging to the lack of action on the part of the Ole Miss administration as "proof" that things aren't as bad as they seem. Yet each time something more comes out, the OM administration is looking more and more inept.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:38 am to UAtide11
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"If it was really as bad as you are saying, don't you think the administration would have..." "Heads would have already rolled if..." "It's not that big of a deal because Ole Miss hasn't yet..."
So you think the NCAA had all this stuff on OM but only sent a first letter to tease them? You think they had all this stuff on us but then decided later to add a terrible precedent like giving players at other team/ immunity to snitch? And given the university knows more than we all do, they decided to wait until now to take a guy off the road. Obviously new info has come about.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:50 am to Vecchio Cane
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The red and blue rumor that Leo Lewis fingered Farrar
Rebal attempt to deflect from all the fingering Myles Hartsfield has been doing.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:52 am to matthew25
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So Leo says Barney gave him $10,000 cash to sign with UM.
bullshite. No good bagman giveth the cash until the player has signed the LOI.
If that was the total amount, I'd be skeptical. If that was a down payment to hold him over until the signature, then that sounds about right. 10k for an elite recruit like Leo seems low.
But with his name dragged through this, I'm glad he decommitted. We have too much to lose to deal with that bullshite.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:54 am to Whereisomaha
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So you think the NCAA had all this stuff on OM but only sent a first letter to tease them? You think they had all this stuff on us but then decided later to add a terrible precedent like giving players at other team/ immunity to snitch. And given the university knows more than we all due, they decided to wait until now to take a guy off the road. Obviously new info has come about.
Yeah, OM fans were right all along. They were doing no cheating. It was all a witch hunt based on women's basketball.
Y'all keep believing that. We'll just keep laughing at you
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:56 am to Whereisomaha
quote:From start to finish, your Administration has acted poorly. If your Compliance had even attempted to do their job many of those Level 1 allegations could have been avoided. Was it too difficult to run the Memphis guy through NCAA and have them tell you he would or wouldn't have been noted as a booster? Before he started organizing recruiting visits with the OM coaches, providing transportation, meals and his home for visits?
So you think the NCAA had all this stuff on OM but only sent a first letter to tease them? You think they had all this stuff on us but then decided later to add a terrible precedent like giving players at other team/ immunity to snitch. And given the university knows more than we all due, they decided to wait until now to take a guy off the road. Obviously new info has come about.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:36 pm to UAtide11
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Yeah, OM fans were right all along. They were doing no cheating. It was all a witch hunt based on women's basketball.
How do you take what I said and excrete this shite?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:38 pm to Whereisomaha
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You think they had all this stuff on us but then decided later to add a terrible precedent like giving players at other team/ immunity to snitch
How is it a terrible precedent? Its not like the NCAA hasn't done stuff like this before
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:39 pm to CCTider
The bad thing is everyone and their brother knew about this. I posted the shite on this board the day after he committed and it was laughed at, which to be fair I would have reacted the same way.
It was well known that Leo privately committed to State when he dropped Bama. No clue how they were stupid enough to pay him for just a commitment knowing all of this.
It was well known that Leo privately committed to State when he dropped Bama. No clue how they were stupid enough to pay him for just a commitment knowing all of this.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:41 pm to Whereisomaha
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So you think the NCAA had all this stuff on OM but only sent a first letter to tease them? You think they had all this stuff on us but then decided later to add a terrible precedent like giving players at other team/ immunity to snitch? And given the university knows more than we all do, they decided to wait until now to take a guy off the road. Obviously new info has come about.
I believe that they were giving you every opportunity to adequately address the issues yourselves, come clean and suffer the consequences of what they initially brought to the table.
Your administration decided to try and call their bluff, they took away the lube.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:47 pm to MaroonNation
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Rebal attempt to deflect from all the fingering Myles Hartsfield has been doing.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOON River....
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:48 pm to Whereisomaha
The worst part of this whole saga is that it shows just how cottupt the NCAA is. Did Ole Miss cheat? Probably so. To what extent? There's the rub. We did no more really than any other school that wants to compete in the power five and there have been other schools that have done much worse. (Miami anyone? Louisville?) For what ever reason we will get probably get hammered while other institutions seem to get a slap on the wrist or a free pass. The inconsistancy is infuriating.
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This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:52 pm to skirpnasty
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It was well known that Leo privately committed to State when he dropped Bama. No clue how they were stupid enough to pay him for just a commitment knowing all of this.
How is everyone so sure it is Leo Lewis who is talking? Just curious.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:56 pm to GoRebsGo!
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GoRebsGo!
I don't necessarily disagree with your view. But imo, historically, teams who attempted to climb the ladder as quickly as OM did get harsher treatment than ordinary violators.
It's not just that y'all jumped up. You jumped too far, too fast, too brashly.
You flew too close to the sun
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:58 pm to GoRebsGo!
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The worst part of this whole saga is that it shows just how cottupt the NCAA is. Did Ole Miss cheat? Probably so. To what extent? There's the rub. We did no more really than any other school that wants to compete in the power five and there have been other schools that have done much worse. (Miami anyone? Louisville?) For what ever reason we will get probably get hammered while other institutions seem to get a slap on the wrist or a free pass. The inconsistancy is infuriating.
Except OM comtinued to cheat even after investigations started. They basically put up theirs middle finger and shouted "frick you" to the NCAA. The NCAA tolerates a lot but it does not tolerate being made to look foolish.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:05 pm to GoRebsGo!
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The worst part of this whole saga is that it shows just how cottupt the NCAA is. Did Ole Miss cheat? Probably so. To what extent? There's the rub. We did no more really than any other school that wants to compete in the power five and there have been other schools that have done much worse. (Miami anyone? Louisville?) For what ever reason we will get probably get hammered while other institutions seem to get a slap on the wrist or a free pass. The inconsistancy is infuriating.
If you were doing no more than "any other school who wants to compete" then your recruiting success wouldn't have spiked. If you're on the same level as everyone else, and stay on the same level as everyone else, that massive spike doesn't happen.
Results do not alter without change in the process. Organic changes to the process like hiring a coach, winning games, or putting a high % of guys in the league improve results gradually and take time. Almost all results at the program level lag behind the change. There are really only a few outliers. One being if you really made a dramatic process change, like hiring Saban or Meyer, which wasn't the case in this scenario. Another is changing status, like moving up to D1 or moving into a better conference. Again, not the case here. There is really only one other way to make your school dramatically more attractive to a player than it was just a year or two before, you add incentive that they aren't getting everywhere else.
Recruiting comes down to what you can offer and who you are, the latter of those doesn't happen over night and there are only a few ways to quickly change the former.
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