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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:18 pm to StopRobot
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:18 pm to StopRobot
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and UGA has played ONE more road game against a team that finished in the top 25.
As mentioned above, Georgia and Florida play in Jacksonville every single year.... so by nature, UGA and UF will play fewer conference road games compared to others.
If the Cocktail Party had been played on campuses instead of in Jacksonville since 2007, both Georgia and Florida would have a minimum of 2 road games against ranked teams added to their credentials... bringing UF to a minimum of 18... Georgia to 13... and Bama would still be at 10.... 3 fewer than any other program in the entire league.
Again, maybe it was all by chance, but you can't deny facts and that Bama has had it easier.
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:20 pm to BHMKyle
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BHMKyleBama's Road Schedule
by BHMKyle
One thing I've not seen discussed much about this upcoming season is Bama's difficult road schedule. Alabama is obviously talented and will most likely compete for the National Championship once again, but if preseason projections are at all close to how teams will finish at the end of the season, Alabama has its work cut out for them. Let's take a look at Alabama's schedule. Opponents' rankings are based on an average of all major preseason polls released thus far:
They did not (or maybe could not) read. This is their universal response:
"Duuuuuuuuhhhh..........ROWWWW TAAAAHDDDD !!!""""
Or maybe, what the local fellers say at the checkerboard table at lunchtime in Bubba'a Live Bait 'N Lingerie Emporium in SkunkButt Flats:
"Duuuuuuuuhhhh..........SKOAL TAAAAAHDDDD !!!""""
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:20 pm to elposter
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BHMKyle, it would be better if you stuck your talking points to either total games or road games, but you keep going back and forth.
The subject was Road games. When others asked or commented about total games, I responded. Don't blame me for responding if someone else changed the subject.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:22 pm to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
Do you have the numbers for total games against final poll AP top 25 teams for SEC teams since 2007 (like the stat you did for road games)? Alabama's true road schedule has been relatively easy, but road games make up far less than half a team's schedule.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:24 pm to elposter
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Do you have the numbers for total games against final poll AP top 25 teams for SEC teams since 2007 (like the stat you did for road games)? Alabama's true road schedule has been relatively easy, but road games make up far less than half a team's schedule.
I don't have them, but could get them. It evens out more so if all games are factored... mainly due to Alabama always playing a ranked bowl opponent. Also, bama tends to play more OOC games in neutral locations vs. true home and away series.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:25 pm to BHMKyle
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Bama's Road Schedule
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BHMKyle, it would be better if you stuck your talking points to either total games or road games, but you keep going back and forth.
The subject was Road games. When others asked or commented about total games, I responded. Don't blame me for responding if someone else changed the subject.
Understood but you also keep conflating the two stats when making some of your points so they end up being logical fallacies.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:26 pm to BHMKyle
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I don't have them, but could get them.
Where do you research this? Are you literally looking at each teams individual schedules and comparing them to final AP polls each year? Hope there is a shortcut for that.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:28 pm to BHMKyle
Nevermind I misread something
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:29 pm to Bama Eric
quote:No you don't. You could get by by running the ball and your vaunted sideways passing game, while relying on the Defense to never let a game get out of reach.
We really need a quarterback to step up and grab the bull by the horns early this year.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:31 pm to elposter
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Where do you research this? Are you literally looking at each teams individual schedules and comparing them to final AP polls each year? Hope there is a shortcut for that.
No of course not. You can run nearly any query at this site: LINK
Sorry, don't know how to post links.
But do a "Record Query" and you can choose all the different parameters. It's not super user-friendly, but if you play with it long enough, you'll figure it out. Someone else posted the link several months ago, and I have to say I became mildly obsessed with it. You can research most anything CFB related.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:33 pm to Carville
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No you don't. You could get by by running the ball and your vaunted sideways passing game, while relying on the Defense to never let a game get out of reach.
Game has changed. You have to get good QB play to win a championship. Alabama had a really good defense last year and gave up 40 or more twice. Can't hide your QB all year.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:34 pm to BHMKyle
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No of course not. You can run nearly any query at this site
Awesome, thanks.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:34 pm to StopRobot
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Ahhhh got it. So UGAs neutral site games count but Bama's dont.
No. I didn't count UGA's or Florida's at all. But you asked the question why UGA only had played one more than Bama, so I gave you the answer. Last I checked, Alabama doesn't have an annual conference game against a perennial power, played in a neutral location. Georgia does.
It would be like Bama and LSU playing every season in some neutral location and then someone else pointing out Bama hardly plays tough road games. While the argument would be technically true (and is despite playing them in Baton Rouge every other year), one would be remiss not to note that Bama played their toughest opponent in a neutral site every year.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:37 pm to BHMKyle
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No. I didn't count UGA's or Florida's at all. But you asked the question why UGA only had played one more than Bama, so I gave you the answer. Last I checked, Alabama doesn't have an annual conference game against a perennial power, played in a neutral location. Georgia does.
It would be like Bama and LSU playing every season in some neutral location and then someone else pointing out Bama hardly plays tough road games. While the argument would be technically true (and is despite playing them in Baton Rouge every other year), one would be remiss not to note that Bama played their toughest opponent in a neutral site every year.
In your first post you didnt say it was just conference games but you did later. I understand now. So what is your point? What is the scheduling advantage?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:06 pm to StopRobot
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In your first post you didnt say it was just conference games but you did later.
It wasn't. It clearly stated that ALL road games were factored... conference or out-of-conference.
But conference opponents... especially those inside one's own division... are played annually. And the fact that Georgia and Florida both play one of their biggest games of the year at a neutral site is going to have an effect. Not making excuses, but I am stating a fact.
I'm not making any excuses for Georgia. Georgia appears to have played one of the easier schedules in the SEC over the past decade. I've been one of the biggest proponents on this board of Auburn moving to the East. I do not like the imbalance that exists, and I think switching Mizzou and Auburn would help even things out.
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So what is your point?
The original point was just to show a set of interesting facts. I love any CFB related statistics... sorry if you don't.
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What is the scheduling advantage?
Not sure. All I know is that Alabama has played 10 road games against ranked teams since 2007. The other 11 SEC schools have played an average of 17.2, and none have played as few as Alabama.
Call it chance, luck, or whatever you want. Those are the facts though.
As I said earlier, I don't think its by design, but regardless Alabama has certainly had an advantage in this regard. You can't say that Alabama playing 10 road games against ranked teams compared to Auburn playing 24 road games against ranked teams isn't a gigantic gap. Those two schools are on the far extremes of the statistic, but nevertheless its true.
Most of that gap is due to chance. All since 2007:
*Auburn has played a ranked MSU team in Starkville twice... Bama zero times.
*Auburn has played a ranked LSU team in Baton Rouge 5 times... Alabama just 2 times.
So just right there, that's 7 for Auburn and just 2 for Bama.
Obviously those are due to just the luck of the draw since all the above teams are in the same division and play annually.
But what are the chances that both Bama and Auburn play the same opponents every season, but somehow in the years that MSU and LSU are at their best, Auburn plays them on the road and Bama gets them at home? It is what it is.
What are the chances that since 2007, LSU has finished #1, #17, #2, #14, and #16 in odd-numbered years (when Auburn comes to Baton Rouge), but during the same time period they would finish "Not Ranked", #8, #14, and "Not Ranked" in even-numbered years (when Bama comes to Baton Rouge)?
Same goes with Mississippi State. MSU has finished ranked twice since 2007: #15 in 2010 and #11 in 2014. It just so happens that Auburn played both those MSU teams in Starkville while Bama got them at home.
Of course all of this is simply the luck of the draw. No one here is complaining. But its uncanny how Bama has avoided tough road games since the Saban era has begun. It's mostly due to pure chance, but its been a huge advantage for Bama nevertheless.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:15 pm to elposter
quote:But you kinda did last year. In the NC, any QB could have hit the wide open TE.
Can't hide your QB all year.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:18 pm to BHMKyle
REC doing wor....wait
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:35 pm to BHMKyle
OP is a fricking dimwit.....Somehow Bama perseveres and wins titles 4-7 years despite playing generally the same schedule, better P5 OOC opponents and transitioning from the BCS to playoff system. I mean any team should be able to do it. It's also an interesting phenomenon as to how teams wind up ranked LOWER after playing Bama
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:38 pm to BHMKyle
Vols will be toughest SEC road game for Bama. Interestingly Saban is 9-0 vs Vols since arriving in Tuscaloosa. The longest streak was 11 wins from '71-'81.
Saban has a legit shot at breaking Bryant's record.
Saban has a legit shot at breaking Bryant's record.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:09 pm to BHMKyle
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It wasn't. It clearly stated that ALL road games were factored... conference or out-of-conference.
So then you did count Bama's neutral games to open the seasons in Dallas or Atlanta?
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