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re: Bama's 2011 Defense. GOAT?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:11 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:11 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Butt out, junior...there's grown ups talking business here..gtfo with that goat-humper propaganda. 
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:28 am to coachcrisp
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Bama's 2011 Defense. GOAT?
You could argue for days about stats and schedules (and it seems you have in this thread). I think the GA Southern game was an anomaly for reasons already mentioned.
That defense had 14 players on the 2 deep already drafted with 2 more being draft eligible in 2015 NFL draft. It had 5 first rounders so far (DePriest has a shot in 2015, I think).
They may not be the GOAT, but I don't know that there has been a better one during the BCS era. They certainly played the best in the BCSNCG giving up only 92 yards and allowing the opponent to cross the 50 one (in the 4th qtr for 2 plays).
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:45 am to AlaTiger
Here are some compilations of the best defenses of all-time.
Haven't seen any mention of the '88 AU defense anywhere...
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10. 2008 USC
9. 1959 Syracuse
8. 2001 Miami
7. 1992 Alabama
6. 1985 Oklahoma
5. 1974 Oklahoma
4. 2011 Alabama
3. 1947 Penn St.
2. 1966 Notre Dame
1. 1961 Alabama
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No. 10 - The 1983 Georgia Bulldogs' defense
No. 9 - The 2002 Ohio State Buckeye defense
No. 8 - The 1988 Notre Dame Fighting Irish defense
No. 7 - The 2009 Alabama Crimson Tide defense
No. 6 - The 1986 Oklahoma Sooner defense
No. 5 - The 1971 Nebraska Cornhusker defense
No. 4 - The 2003 LSU Tigers defense
No. 3 - The 2011 Alabama Crimson Tide defense
No. 2 - The 2001 Miami Hurricanes defense
No. 1 - The 1992 Alabama Crimson Tide defense
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10. 1968 Ohio St.
9. 1985 Oklahoma
8. 1995 Nebraska
7. 2001 Miami
6. 1992 Alabama
5. 1974 Oklahoma
4. 2011 Alabama
3. 1959 Syracuse
2. 1971 Nebraska
1. 1961 Alabama
Haven't seen any mention of the '88 AU defense anywhere...
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10. 2008 USC
9. 1959 Syracuse
8. 2001 Miami
7. 1992 Alabama
6. 1985 Oklahoma
5. 1974 Oklahoma
4. 2011 Alabama
3. 1947 Penn St.
2. 1966 Notre Dame
1. 1961 Alabama
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No. 10 - The 1983 Georgia Bulldogs' defense
No. 9 - The 2002 Ohio State Buckeye defense
No. 8 - The 1988 Notre Dame Fighting Irish defense
No. 7 - The 2009 Alabama Crimson Tide defense
No. 6 - The 1986 Oklahoma Sooner defense
No. 5 - The 1971 Nebraska Cornhusker defense
No. 4 - The 2003 LSU Tigers defense
No. 3 - The 2011 Alabama Crimson Tide defense
No. 2 - The 2001 Miami Hurricanes defense
No. 1 - The 1992 Alabama Crimson Tide defense
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10. 1968 Ohio St.
9. 1985 Oklahoma
8. 1995 Nebraska
7. 2001 Miami
6. 1992 Alabama
5. 1974 Oklahoma
4. 2011 Alabama
3. 1959 Syracuse
2. 1971 Nebraska
1. 1961 Alabama
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:48 am to RollTide1987
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1988, a time before the passing game was introduced to the SEC, to find one.
Actually I believe the '87 Auburn team was the first SEC team to finish the season with more passing yards than rushing yards.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:54 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Oh, after the earthquake game where LSU did not cross midfield the entire game until the final drive
Wrong.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:55 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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No. This GOAT discussion has gotten out of hand. It is way too biased with the recent past and lacks perspective in many ways.
Reasons:
1. In TnMWorld, Alabama cannot be the best at anything. That logic does not compute.
2. In TnMWorld, the greatest defense of all time MUST be an auburn team. That is a given.
3. Random arbitrary timelines and stats can back all of this up. If the argument is too indefensible to keep a straight face, argue that determining the "greatest" is just too biased and vague to successfully make a case.
But if you COULD make a case, it would certainly be an auburn team. I mean, OBVIOUSLY...
FIFY.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:02 am to skrayper
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Going by that logic, the 1966 Alabama team is better than both. They gave up 4 points per game, and had 6 shutouts.
The 1962 LSU team gave up 3.1 ppg with 6 shutouts, including shutting out #4 and undefeated Texas in the Cotton.
But talk about a different era:
LSU abandoned its conservative
“three yards and a cloud of
dust” offensive philosophy for a high flying
aerial assault on the Texas defense.
The Tigers had completed only 40
passes during the entire season. This
was another day, however, as LSU completed
13 of 21 pass attempts, two shy
of the record 15 completions set the previous
year by ‘Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:16 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The late 80's isn't as you had teams averaging 30 and 40 points a game.
You can go back further than that. LSU averaged over 32 ppg in '82, that same year FSU averaged 35 ppg and in 1980 had 31 ppg.
Oklahoma averaged 33 ppg in '77, 39 ppg in '78, and 34 ppg in '79.
Nebraska: 32 ppg in '76, 37 ppg in '78.
The difference wasn't in scoring, it was in pass vs rush.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:28 am to WildTchoupitoulas
How many times did LSU cross midfield before the final drive then?
Once?
It was either 0 or 1. Not much difference.
Once?
It was either 0 or 1. Not much difference.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:29 am to Crimson Legend
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1. In TnMWorld, Alabama cannot be the best at anything. That logic does not compute. 2. In TnMWorld, the greatest defense of all time MUST be an auburn team. That is a given. 3. Random arbitrary timelines and stats can back all of this up. If the argument is too indefensible to keep a straight face, argue that determining the "greatest" is just too biased and vague to successfully make a case. But if you COULD make a case, it would certainly be an auburn team. I mean, OBVIOUSLY...
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:30 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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How many times did LSU cross midfield before the final drive then? Once?
Yep, twice total.
They just had a replay yesterday on CST. What a game.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:36 am to AlaTiger
Two other defenses that I think were just as good, if not better, were the 2000 OU defense, and the 2005 Alabama defense. Both teams played harder schedules (offensively tougher schedule) and both had very tough units. The 2005 Alabama defense was disgusting, it just didn't have an offense to back it up.
Just IMO.
Just IMO.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:37 am to Crimson Legend
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quote: No. This GOAT discussion has gotten out of hand. It is way too biased with the recent past and lacks perspective in many ways. Reasons: 1. In TnMWorld, Alabama cannot be the best at anything. That logic does not compute. 2. In TnMWorld, the greatest defense of all time MUST be an auburn team. That is a given. 3. Random arbitrary timelines and stats can back all of this up. If the argument is too indefensible to keep a straight face, argue that determining the "greatest" is just too biased and vague to successfully make a case. But if you COULD make a case, it would certainly be an auburn team. I mean, OBVIOUSLY...
Perhaps the most accurate thing ever posted to this website. Bravo
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:40 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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What a game.
Depends on your allegiance.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:58 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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How many times did LSU cross midfield before the final drive then? Once?
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Yep, twice total.
Negative. LSU crossed the 50 one time in the entire game - in the 4th qtr. They crossed the 50 on an 18 yard scramble by JJ. They then lost 3 yards on a run, lost 5 yards on a false start, threw two incomplete passes, and fumbled on a sack by Dont'a Hightower on 4th & 18 from the Alabama 40.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:01 am to bamasgot13
We were talking AU v LSU in 88.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:02 am to bamasgot13
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Negative. LSU crossed the 50 one time in the entire game - in the 4th qtr. They crossed the 50 on an 18 yard scramble by JJ...
You missed your cue.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:08 am to Crimson Legend
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Crimson Legend
You are the wind beneath my wings, my friend.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:20 am to Patton
You guys need to quit poking fun at ole TiM.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:24 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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We were talking AU v LSU in 88.
my bad. continue...
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