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re: Bama ranked 20th most valuable Basketball program in the country

Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:46 am to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:46 am to
I'm not sure what you think is cute. Attendance numbers are not gate numbers.

You can argue with the Aubie about 4k all day. Unless someone has gate numbers then it's all BS.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:47 am to
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The top 15 schools make some sense, the rest is a mess. Florida has had far more success than most of these teams and has higher average attendance, something in the figures he is using is amiss.


Again, taking into account the fact that Florida is spending far, far more than many of those programs, and I don't think it's so far fetched.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:47 am to
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Florida is spending far, far more than many of those programs


Link?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:48 am to
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Link?


Do you need a damn link that shows Florida spends more on basketball than Northwestern or Dayton?
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Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:49 am to
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Again, taking into account the fact that Florida is spending far, far more than many of those programs, and I don't think it's so far fetched.


And the Dodgers spend far more than the Rays, but which franchise would get more on the open market? Just admit there is a flaw in the methodology, it's okay.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:49 am to
Yes
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:50 am to
5 games at 5,000 (Non-Conference)
4 games at 12,000 (Weekday SEC)
2 games at 14,000 (Weekend SEC)
3 games at 15,000 (Kentucky, LSU, Auburn - sellouts)

Average of 10,429

Seems pretty reasonable
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:50 am to
There very well could be, but the people in this thread crying about it are going a bit overboard and failing to take into account some pretty important criteria in measuring profit.
Posted by bgator85
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:51 am to
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Again, taking into account the fact that Florida is spending far, far more than many of those programs, and I don't think it's so far fetched.


We also bring in far more revenue, it balances out. Louisville, Kentucky, Kansas spend more than we do, but also bring in even larger revenues.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:51 am to
I thought your thread was about value. Now it's about profitability?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:52 am to
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There very well could be, but the people in this thread crying about it are going a bit overboard and failing to take into account some pretty important criteria in measuring profit.


Staunchly defending it and completely shitting on it are both bad positions.

Alas, this is the SEC Rant though. Grey does not exist here.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:53 am to
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I mean, that's cute and all, but I'm not sure about the "4,000 average attendance" that NYT is talking about.


so you dont believe me?


you were able to search the other quickly, but glanced right over the actual attendance figures.



Its not a bad thing, Bama does it well. They package basketball tickets with several thousand football tickets. its a forced buy to get the football tickets. it in turn, elevates their tickets sold attendance numbers
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:53 am to
Just to jump back into attendance - we generally sell out 5-6 SEC games a year, especially when we are playing well and people are excited (like this season). Our gym seats 15,000. Contrast that with Auburn (9,120), Ole Miss (9,500), Georgia (10,523) and Florida (11,548). So, we have 5/14 games that are at 90% actually butt in the seats capacity and it makes sense our average attendance would be ~10K, even if for the bad home OOC games the place is 1/3 full and the mid-week SEC games it is 3/4 of 2/3 full.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:56 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:54 am to
frick, here we go again. Your white guys were better than the 8 other teams white guys.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:55 am to
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so you dont believe me?


I think the games like Norfolk State and Southern Miss probably draw 4-5K people (1/3 capacity). I think almost all SEC games draw about 10K minimum, and about half our home games are 90% filled (Kentucky, Auburn, LSU, this year A&M).

Mesh all that together and you come to an average of somewhere around 10K.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:55 am to
I don't care about your attendance enough to jump back to it. Sorry.

I don't care about any team's attendance either. It's not really a Bama thing. This isn't something worth spending a whole lot of time on IMO.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:55 am to
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Yes


Here is a complete database from 2012.

LINK =
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:55 am to
He's not measuring profit. He's measuring value.

The Royals are probably more profitable than thr Dodgers. No one would argue that they're more valuable.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Just to jump back into attendance - we generally sell out 5-6 SEC games a year, especially when we are playing well and people are excited (like this season). Our gym seats 15,000. Contrast that with Auburn (9,120), Ole Miss (9,500) and Georgia (10,523). So, we have 5/14 games that are at 90% actually butt in the seats capacity and it makes sense our average attendance would be ~10K, even if for the bad home OOC games the place is 1/3 full and the mid-week SEC games it is 3/4 of 2/3 full.


I wonder if there is a package deal for Bama Fans, if they are season ticket holders in Basketball, they get some preference for football season tickets ?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:57 am to
We don't have Billy D's salary any longer so 2012 data is useless when measuring value as of last year.

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