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re: Bama ranked 20th most valuable Basketball program in the country

Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:34 am to
Louisville sells alcohol at their games. Imagine if pot was legal in Kentucky. Stoned linebeards would spend a fortune on nachos at games.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:35 am to
NCAA attendance rankings from NCAA website:

LINK
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:35 am to
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according to an annual study by Ryan Brewer, an assistant professor of finance at Indiana University-Purdue University Columbus.

Brewer analyzed each program’s revenues and expenses and made cash-flow adjustments, risk assessments and growth projections to calculate what a college team would be worth on the open market, if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise.


So it's one guys opinion. An educated opinion, but still one persons opinion.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:36 am to
Risk assessments and growth projections ? We have seen these list before, and they are useless.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:38 am to
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calculate what a college team would be worth on the open market, if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise.


yet minnesota would fetch a higher price tag than UCLA?

Needs to work on some of those formulas.
Posted by bgator85
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:38 am to
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So it's one guys opinion. An educated opinion, but still one persons opinion.


And one based on terrible methods if his conclusion is that Northwestern and USF are more valuable than UF.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:38 am to
List looks pretty solid to me. For the most part, with a couple of outliers, fairly in line with overall success and attendance rankings.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:38 am to
Does Creighton really fill up that arena they play in every night? #6 nationally is nuts.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:39 am to
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yet minnesota would fetch a higher price tag than UCLA?


Obviously Pitino Jr means more to growth projections and risk assessments than Alford.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:39 am to
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one based on terrible methods if his conclusion is that Northwestern and USF are more valuable than UF.



It's based on net profitability, which takes into account annual expenses. I think it's safe to assume that Florida spends tens of millions more per year on their basketball program than USF or Northwestern.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:39 am to
From you link:

quote:

The arena, built in 1968, holds 15,383. Attendance figures are based on tickets sold, not the number who actually witnessed the games.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:40 am to
2014-2015 SEC Attendance Averages
2. Kentucky - 23,572
11. Arkansas - 15,519
13. Tennessee - 15,064
33. South Carolina - 11,523
38. Florida - 10,570
40. Alabama - 10,177
50. LSU - 8,897
51. Vanderbilt - 8,862
55. Missouri - 8,064
58. Auburn - 7,825
64. Georgia - 7,587
67. Ole Miss - 7,200
71. Texas A&M - 6,927
81. Mississippi State - 6,291
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:41 am to
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Attendance figures are based on tickets sold, not the number who actually witnessed the games.


yeah I've been to coleman a handful of times and I haven't seen anything nearly approaching 10K fans there.

Not that we have anything to brag about, just saying. Alabama's "attendance" is not 10,000 per game. Not close.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:42 am to
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From you link:


I mean, that's cute and all, but I'm not sure about the "4,000 average attendance" that NYT is talking about.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:44 am to
10,000 butts in seats still leaves 5,000 empty seats. That's a lot of empty seats. Would certainly make it seem like a smaller number in attendance. Likewise, I've been to several, including the UGA game a couple years ago when Trevor hit a half court game winner, in which attendance appeared to be well over 10,000.
Posted by BK785
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:44 am to
Surprising that Duke is that low..
Posted by bgator85
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:44 am to
quote:

List looks pretty solid to me. For the most part, with a couple of outliers, fairly in line with overall success and attendance rankings.


The top 15 schools make some sense, the rest is a mess. Florida has had far more success than most of these teams and has higher average attendance, something in the figures he is using is amiss.
Posted by bbeck
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:45 am to
Bama higher than UCLA?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:45 am to
My guess from spending a lot of years there and now watching most games on TV would be

4-5K in the stands for bad, Tue/Wed non conference games (5 games)
12-15K for conference games (9 games)

If you generally apply those totals across our schedule this year it comes to an average of about 10,000.

This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by CrazyCadillac
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:45 am to
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We typically average over 10,000+ in attendance even in our worst years


Lol
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