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re: Bama maintains dominance when Saban leaves. True or False?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:18 am to CrimsonChin
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:18 am to CrimsonChin
Saban retires from coaching completely with Bama as his last job. He remains involved in the program in some way, as an unofficial consultant or as the athletic director, or somewhere in between. He picks his successor (likely Kirby Smart) and the transition is under his watch.
Bama dominance continues.
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Bama dominance continues.
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This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 10:19 am
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Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:19 am to Chimlim
When Saban is gone the recruiting will drop off, what are these kids looking at, well, a coach with a great record, a disciplined football program that scouts for Sunday football look for. They will look at the school that benefits them the most. But Alabama will still be a good program, but IMO I don't think it will be anything close to what Saban is doing. But the good news for bama fans is it will be several years before that should even be a factor, I would hang back and enjoy the ride my friends.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:27 am to CrimsonChin
False. Too many quality coaches, and the SEC's dominance looks to continue moving forward. One down year, mixed with a bit of poor luck makes all the difference. Don't get me wrong, coaching is the single most important factor in success, and a great coach could come in and win right away, but Alabama doesn't have a good track record once great coaches leave, and that isn't luck. Too many people set in their ways and want their finger prints all over the program, and try and exert their influence once a figurehead leaves. Alabama won't be able to fit in a guy coming off success. Never have, never will. Their fan base and boosters are far too egotistical.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:28 am to ninetosix
I find the comments about alabama going back to mediocrity where they belong quite amusing, since alabama is by far the best program in the league, historically speaking. the down years of the 2000s were the aberration. Our continued success will depend largely on the next coach hire. alabama is done with bad hires. we will open up the check book again and get the best coach available. whoever gets the program next will be in much the same situation Miles was in coming into lsu. The will inherit a well oiled machine and a completely stacked roster
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:28 am to Tammany Tom
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quote: Since Saban's arrival at Bama, they have been the most dominant team in the country.
Yet, have not been able to be the most dominant team in the SEC at the same time. Simply Remarkable.
Then who is? Before you answer, let me give you a few facts. If you are unsure of what that word means, www.websters.com is a good place to be enlightened
Not counting Sabans first year (I never count coach's first year for obvious reasons, but don't fret, that will come later in the post)
Alabama's overall record - 48-6
Alabama's conf record - 28-4
With 2 BCS championships
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LSU's Overall record - 41-12
LSU's conf record - 22-10
No BCS championships
That's a pretty big difference I would say.
But for you cry babies that want ALL the facts, here is what that number looks like when you include Saban's first year, using Shula players, transitioning them from shula's system, and dealing with Shula's problems (players that don't give a frick mostly) as well as a BCS winning season from the tigers. That should really tip the scales in your favor huh? Or should it?
Alabama's overall record - 55-12
Alabama's conf record - 32-8
2 BCS championships
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LSU's overall record - 53-14
LSU's conf record - 28-12
1 BCS championship
Now what was it you were saying again?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:30 am to TwoBarBammer
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Now what was it you were saying again?
I think you missed the main point.
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Yet, have not been able to be the most dominant team in the SEC at the same time
LSU - 2 SECC
UA - 1 SECC
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:31 am to CrimsonChin
It all depends on who they hire. Will they get another Nick Saban or will they get another Mike Shula. No one knows.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:35 am to OSqueal
They will never get another Mike Shula because they were desperate with the sanctions at that time which crippled the program....
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:39 am to Choctaw
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false. the'll go back to mediocrity where they belong and eventually end up getting in trouble again with recruiting. its inevitable
Mediocre kinda like LSU's entire history? Don't kid yourself you've only become relevant recently.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:48 am to joeyb147
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LSU - 2 SECC UA - 1 SECC
This is hilarious coming from a Barner fwiw. I would think you would want to disallow coach's first seasons too. I'll remember this when comparing CheeseWiz's record in the future.
So you are taking what is basically a 2 game sample (each team played the seccg twice) and trying to use it over a 40 game sample? That's comical. Especially when the conference records have such a disparity between them. 80% vs 70%. Add in the fact that we have doubled their number of national championships in that time frame, and your argument holds zero water.
Try again Barner.
Eta: also, both teams won their division twice. However the disparity in the quality of opponents in those seccg's is pretty big as well.
Alabama played the #2 ranked eventual national champion in the first year, and the #1 ranked defending national champion in the second (a team that was predicted by almost every media outlet in the country to repeat)
LSU played 14th ranked Tennessee in the first one and a 16th ranked Georgia team that benefitted greatly from one of the easiest sec schedules in recent memory.
This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:58 am to TwoBarBammer
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TwoBarBammer
Calm down princess. Don't get your panties so twisted.
I didn't say I agreed with him or disagreed with him. All I did was explain his reasoning.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:00 am to joeyb147
Crawfishing - the one thing Barners do better than cheat.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:01 am to CrimsonChin
y'all certainly maintained "dominance" when the bear left.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:04 am to TwoBarBammer
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TwoBarBammer
Someone is pretty upset. Go fap to a picture of Nick Saban. Everything is going to be okay.
Maybe try to pick up some reading comprehension as well.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:05 am to joeyb147
Deflecting -completing the Barner talent trifecta.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:08 am to TwoBarBammer
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Deflecting
What am I deflecting there big guy?
Point to me where I ever said LSU > Alabama in the SEC since Nick Saban's arrival in Tuscaloosa.
TIA
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:09 am to genro
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Saban retires from coaching completely with Bama as his last job. He remains involved in the program in some way, as an unofficial consultant or as the athletic director, or somewhere in between. He picks his successor (likely Kirby Smart) and the transition is under his watch.
you must think sucess is a mathematical formula. fail on so many levels. perhaps you are an engineer or of a discipline that feels formulas apply to people. saban as AD would probably be a a joke. coacing and ADing are 2 radically different jobs. history has also proved many times over, great coaches hand picking their successor is not effective. but, dream on. do you not remember the last great coach y'all had and what happened when he left?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:11 am to TwoBarBammer
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Now what was it you were saying again?
Since you have a real Problem with comprehension, I will repeat myself:
I agreed with you that Bama has been the most dominant team in the country since Saban arrived, but has not been the most dominant team in the SEC.
I think we all agree that championships trump everything.
Bama 2 NC's under Saban hence most dominant in country.
LSU 2 SEC Titles while Saban at Bama and Bama only 1, hence LSU most dominant team in SEC.
Unless, of course you don't think Championships are the most important criteria in determining Domination.
This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:19 am to Tammany Tom
lol whatever helps you sleep at night.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:19 am to Choctaw
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false. the'll go back to mediocrity where they belong and eventually end up getting in trouble again with recruiting. its inevitable
So mad. And so dumb.
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