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re: Baker Mayfield or Johnny Manziel
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:09 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:09 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Also, like I SAID earlier, he's already had teammates drafted off of his offenses. A 2nd rounder RB, and 4th rounder RB, a 4th rounder WR, and two UFA OL washouts. You don't get to ignore that.
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:10 pm to texag7
Again, how many 1st round OL, or top 10 draft picks and future All-Pro guys did Manziel have to work with compared to Mayfield?
All that talent and all those stats and Manziel still coulent finish higher than 3rd in his own division, while a walk-on named Mayfield, with less talent and a lesser supporting cast has won 2 straight conference championships.
Mayfield has won twice as many conference championships as a starter in the last 2 seasons than Texas A&M has won in Mayfields lifetime.
2 more conference championships in the last 2 years than the Aggies have won in the lifetime of any underclassmen in CFB
All that talent and all those stats and Manziel still coulent finish higher than 3rd in his own division, while a walk-on named Mayfield, with less talent and a lesser supporting cast has won 2 straight conference championships.
Mayfield has won twice as many conference championships as a starter in the last 2 seasons than Texas A&M has won in Mayfields lifetime.
2 more conference championships in the last 2 years than the Aggies have won in the lifetime of any underclassmen in CFB
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:11 pm to BowlJackson
They're trying to ignore what you posted and they're reaching back to his days at Tech to bolster their stupid argument.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:13 pm to BowlJackson
And A&M has beaten Oklahoma more recently than Auburn.
No wonder you're all over Mayfields nuts. They're still in your mouth from earlier this year.
Bitch
No wonder you're all over Mayfields nuts. They're still in your mouth from earlier this year.
Bitch
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:18 pm to texag7
And with that, the aggie goes for the low hanging fruit and admits defeat.
Manziel was surrounded by national championship level talent. And still aggie failed. Mayfield never has been.
Manziel was surrounded by national championship level talent. And still aggie failed. Mayfield never has been.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:19 pm to CharlotteSooner
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He's still faster than a 4.65 40 I can promise you that.
Here are all the quarterbacks that have run faster than a 4.65 at the NFL Combine since 2008 (I can't get the 2007 numbers for some reason).
Robert Griffin - 4.41
Tyrod Taylor - 4.51
Marcus Mariota - 4.52
Colin Kaepernick - 4.53
Jarrett Brown - 4.54
Nick Marshall - 4.54
Trevor Knight - 4.54
Josh Johnson - 4.55
Pat White - 4.55
Russell Wilson - 4.55
Jeff Driskel - 4.56
Blake Sims - 4.57
Jake Locker - 4.59
Cam Newton - 4.59
Geno Smith - 4.59
Kevin O'Connell - 4.61
Logan Thomas - 4.61
Blaine Gabbert - 4.62
Joshua Portis - 4.62
Cody Fajardo - 4.63
Brett Huntley - 4.63
Stephen Morris - 4.63
Joshua Dobbs - 4.64
For reference, Deshaun Watson ran a 4.66. Boykin from TCU ran a 4.77.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:19 pm to ovo225
JFF. Mayfield plays in a shite conference with solid talent around him. there's nothing electrifying about mayfield.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:19 pm to texag7
Thats great. Let me know when your football team accomplishes something in this conference.
I won't hold my breath waiting.
I won't hold my breath waiting.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
So? We're not talking about them are we?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:21 pm to BowlJackson
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Again, how many 1st round OL, or top 10 draft picks and future All-Pro guys did Manziel have to work with compared to Mayfield?
I don't know, how many players from the 2015, 2016, and 2017 Oklahoma Sooners are still playing football?
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All that talent and all those stats and Manziel still coulent finish higher than 3rd in his own division, while a walk-on named Mayfield, with less talent and a lesser supporting cast has won 2 straight conference championships.
1. Mayfield hasn't been a walk-on since 2015
2. Not all conferences are created equal
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:22 pm to CharlotteSooner
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So? We're not talking about them are we?
You guaranteed that Mayfield will run faster at the 40 than Deshaun Watson and Treyvon Boykin.
Moving those goalposts must be exhausting.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:25 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I guaranteed he'll run faster than a 4.65 - 40, and he will. And AGAIN, Baker Mayfield is NOT a dual threat QB. We have a position for people who run the ball. We call them RUNNING BACKS, hence the name.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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2. Not all conferences are created equal
Just stooooooop.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:28 pm to CharlotteSooner
The fact that that you to continue to try and defend and pump mayfield should tell you the answer. Manziel statistically whips mayfields arse. He did it in the sec not in the weak big 12. Just stop you look foolish. Mayfield hasnt even been the best player in college yet and you wanna say he's better than a heisman winner who blows him away statistically. Ok bruh.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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For reference, Deshaun Watson ran a 4.66. Boykin from TCU ran a 4.77.
So?
Jake Locker - 4.59
Jeff Driskel - 4.56
They were faster than them too.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:32 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Just stooooooop.
2012 Final AP Poll conference opponents
1. Alabama
9. Florida
14. LSU
2013 Final AP Poll conference opponents
2. Auburn
5. Missouri
7. Alabama
14. LSU
24. Vanderbilt
2015 Final AP Poll conference opponents
7. TCU
13. Baylor
20. Oklahoma State
2016 Final AP Poll conference opponents
11. Oklahoma State
18. West Virginia
Like I said. No comparison.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:33 pm to Aggie_2463
Manziel ran around and threw the ball every down because you had no running game. That's the only reason for his stats. Nice try though aggie.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:37 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
2012 Final AP Poll conference opponents
1. Alabama - W
9. Florida - L
14. LSU - L
2013 Final AP Poll conference opponents
2. Auburn - L
5. Missouri - L
7. Alabama - L
14. LSU - L
24. Vanderbilt - LOL
1. Alabama - W
9. Florida - L
14. LSU - L
2013 Final AP Poll conference opponents
2. Auburn - L
5. Missouri - L
7. Alabama - L
14. LSU - L
24. Vanderbilt - LOL
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:40 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Manziel ran around and threw the ball every down because you had no running game
As a dog returns to his vomit, CharlotteSooner just can't help being wrong.
2012 Season.
Ben Malena - 138 carries for 808 yards and 8 TD
Christine Michael - 88 carries for 417 yards and 12 TD
Trey Williams - 65 carries for 376 yards and 5 TD
A&M running backs carried the ball 291 times for 1,601 yards and 25 TD in 2012
2013 Season.
Ben Malena - 115 carries for 551 yards and 10 TD
Trey Williams - 58 carries for 407 yards and 6 TD
Tra Carson - 62 carries for 329 yards and 7 TD
Brandon Williams - 44 carries for 269 yards and 1 TD
A&M running backs carried the ball 279 times for 1,556 yards and 24 TD in 2013.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:41 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Manziel had RB Christine Michael - 2nd round draft pick.
Mayfield had RB Mixon - 2nd round draft pick
Mayfield had RB Perine - 4th round draft pick
Mayfield had C Ty Darlington - UFA and washout
Mayfield had RG Nila Kasitati - UFA and washout
Weeeeeeeeee...........what superior talent he's had to Manziel.
Come on man. Mixon and Perine were a disgusting backfield and were WAYYYY better than Christine Michael and Ben Molina. Manziel had Evans and some first round talent on the offensive line. I'd call it close to a wash, with a slight edge to A&M in supporting cast.
Lincoln Riley closes that gap and then some in playcalling. That guy has been a wizard at Oklahoma.
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