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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:49 pm to AubieALUMdvm
Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:49 pm to AubieALUMdvm
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As far as DO vs MD - Several people have brought up the scenario of one or the other performing a major surgery. Only ignorance would cause someone to think there would be a major difference between the two individuals if they both went through the same internship, residency, and fellowship. I have close friends that entered med school at UAB the same year i entered vet school. We kept up with each other and had a lot of conversations comparing our curriculum throughout the years. Most were smart as can be. A couple of them I would never trust to operate on me yet they are SoandSo, MD today. Take that however you want it but, for me, MD does not equal automatic superiority.
You are right! Yes, they go through Allopathic residencies, the same surgical residencies as MD's. They are boarded with 3 part boards, to be certified in their specialty. Most in here don't understand that the finished product are indistinguishable when it comes to specialty training.
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:50 pm to CamdenTiger
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Most in here don't understand that the finished product are indistinguishable when it comes to specialty training.
only a few actually
Posted on 8/31/12 at 12:45 am to Monticello
In America that ability to trust a doctor's skill has almost nothing to do with where he graduated or what his MCAT score is. American standards for medicine are very high compared to the rest of the world, and parity between schools is phenomenal. A good doctor can come from anywhere and have MD or D.O. next to his name.
I am happy this school is coming to Auburn and Dothan. I hope the school standards are high from an academic and treatment standpoint. Having worked in 5 hospitals (including a medical school) and several 3rd world hospitals, I can say that raw intelligence IS NOT A GOOD INDICATOR of how good a doctor will be.
I am happy this school is coming to Auburn and Dothan. I hope the school standards are high from an academic and treatment standpoint. Having worked in 5 hospitals (including a medical school) and several 3rd world hospitals, I can say that raw intelligence IS NOT A GOOD INDICATOR of how good a doctor will be.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 12:56 am to allin2010
When I first read this, I thought "osteopathic medicine is bullshite." but then I know people who have been helped by alternative treatments including chiropractic medicinal treatments that WORKED for them.
I myself have had issues completely FIXED by acupuncture and Chinese herb treatments. This was for diabetic neuropathy and it damn well worked when western medicine did not. (I did not stop seeing my regular doctor. I just added a Chinese acupuncturist as a specialist within my treatment team.)
I think that there is an incomplete body of knowledge on what works on the body. I am willing to respect anything that WORKS.
I myself have had issues completely FIXED by acupuncture and Chinese herb treatments. This was for diabetic neuropathy and it damn well worked when western medicine did not. (I did not stop seeing my regular doctor. I just added a Chinese acupuncturist as a specialist within my treatment team.)
I think that there is an incomplete body of knowledge on what works on the body. I am willing to respect anything that WORKS.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 1:44 pm to AUTiger83
Our knowledge of the human body has increased greatly the last decade but still tiny as a whole of what is available.
i'm glad the school is coming to AU, it gives AU something the school has needed for a while. Anytime there is medical research I'm glad it is done, we need it.
i'm glad the school is coming to AU, it gives AU something the school has needed for a while. Anytime there is medical research I'm glad it is done, we need it.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 2:05 pm to CamdenTiger
Having been around both MD and DO grads for over 30 years, there are differences in their initial experiences historically. The MD schools are virtually ALL hospital based, with academic faculty teaching in their clinical years, with a smattering of community training from private docs. DO schools have a greater tendency to send their students to clinical years in private offices, depriving them of intense educational experiences provided in teaching hospitals. (Exceptions exist: Ok State in Tulsa has a teaching osteopathic hospital).
Also, generally DO students are more likely to be non-traditional students: late to the game, delayed entry secondary to failure to get into MD schools, etc.
All that said, I have had DO residents who made fine physicians and MD students who did not, but if choosing an entire population of graduates rather than an individual, I would choose in this order:
1) from accredited US schools,
2)a)from some European schools and b)Central American schools (Guatemala, Honduras), and
3)a) from some Caribbean med schools and b) DO schools in US. I left out Canadian schools which are generally on the same level as US med schools.
The initial people who go to Dothan will be, generally, those who could not get into a traditional, accredited US med school (UAB, USA).
In Virginia, those who go to the aforementioned school will generally not have been able to get into UVA or Medical College of Va.
Also, generally DO students are more likely to be non-traditional students: late to the game, delayed entry secondary to failure to get into MD schools, etc.
All that said, I have had DO residents who made fine physicians and MD students who did not, but if choosing an entire population of graduates rather than an individual, I would choose in this order:
1) from accredited US schools,
2)a)from some European schools and b)Central American schools (Guatemala, Honduras), and
3)a) from some Caribbean med schools and b) DO schools in US. I left out Canadian schools which are generally on the same level as US med schools.
The initial people who go to Dothan will be, generally, those who could not get into a traditional, accredited US med school (UAB, USA).
In Virginia, those who go to the aforementioned school will generally not have been able to get into UVA or Medical College of Va.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 3:28 pm to kjacksonp
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kjacksonp
What do you do for a living?
Posted on 8/31/12 at 3:47 pm to AubieALUMdvm
Faculty at USA COM. neonatology
Posted on 8/31/12 at 5:32 pm to kjacksonp
AU has had a fine medical facility....the vet school. Because UF didnt have a vet school in early 1960 we lost Tucker Frederickson to AU and he ended up as # 1 pick in NFL draft with Giants. I was just at my vets here in Tampa Area today and he went to AU and we always talk about Tucker who he knew from school....doc told Tucker had a great practice in Ft Lauderdale area (where he went to high school I think?)I loved the Giant in the early-mid 1960s when YA Title was qb (Bald Eagle) from LSU. Del Shofner, Frank Gifford, Sam Huff (or was it Redskins)Andy Robistelli etc etc.
Back in those days your limbs were in danger of being ripped off your body....very tough sport.
Back to vet school....I used to have Salukis..a rare breed and showed them around the country and had an eye specialist from AU operate on my males eyes (tumor) in Pensacola...he would make a circuit and provide specialized care in cities that didnt have any residing there...he taught at AU also....this was 1983 or so...I was pretty bummed about 1983 game
Back in those days your limbs were in danger of being ripped off your body....very tough sport.
Back to vet school....I used to have Salukis..a rare breed and showed them around the country and had an eye specialist from AU operate on my males eyes (tumor) in Pensacola...he would make a circuit and provide specialized care in cities that didnt have any residing there...he taught at AU also....this was 1983 or so...I was pretty bummed about 1983 game
Posted on 9/2/12 at 10:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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That is why they keep close grips on the UA BOT power balance, it prevents UAB from breaking away and claiming the banner.
There is no "banner" to claim seeing as how the Medical School is owned and governed by the UA System and not UAB (despite what you UAB'ers might say). UAB can secede if they'd like, but the only piece of their prestigious medical school they would retain is the building (even though it'll never happen). I'm also sure many more lawsuits would follow because there's no doubt the BoTs would want a repayment in full on all the money they've invested into that extension school over the years.
Ask USA how their medical school is doing these days (compared to to the UASOM) after they seized control of what was left of the UASOM after it relocated to Tuscaloosa, before settling in that corrupt shite/piss/puke-hole known as Birmingham back when USA was UA at Mobile.
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