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re: Auburn folks : What was your gut feeling seeing Dabo hoist that title trophy?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:26 pm to Tillman
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:26 pm to Tillman
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this is evidence Clemson has a better athletic deparmtnet now compared to SEC schools.
When you only have to get up for two games a year, it is easy to look like a contender. If Clemson had played UA or LSU schedule this year, they would not have played in the playoffs. Even as bad as the SEC was this year.
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:30 pm to Tillman
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what did Richt win at UGA?
Richt won SEC Championships in Year 2 and Year 5. He also took Georgia to a #2 national finish in Year 7.
In his final five seasons he still won 9.8 games per season and finished in the Top 10 twice... also never had fewer than 8 wins in a given year during those last 5 years. But he stopped winning SEC Titles so we fired him.
Richt would have had a lifetime contract at Clemson had he brought Clemson the same amount of success in 15 years.
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so you think Saban would get fired after three medicore seasons? even though he has won 4 national titles and almost a 5th one at Alabama.
Fired? No. Saban has built up far too much equity in bringing Alabama so many Titles. But if Bama suddenly goes 8-4 and fails to even win the West for three consecutive seasons, you better bet he'd be hearing it was time for him to retire. I don't even think it would take 3 seasons like that.... probably just 2.
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how many titles has UGA won recently? How many conference titles?
If you know anything about Georgia, you'll know that it was Richt's lack of titles that ultimately led to his firing. How many other schools can say they fired a coach who won 145 games in 15 seasons? Again, Richt won 2 SEC Titles in his first 5 seasons. Fans were happy then.
Richt probably was allowed to hang out too long, but the fact that he had won an SEC Title... not once, but twice... bought him extra time.
There is no way Mark Richt would have ever been fired at Clemson had he brought them the same level of success over 15 years. He would still be coaching there with the stadium named after him.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:34 pm to Tillman
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Dabo won the ACC in his 3rd full season, t hat was the same year they lost to WV big in that bowl game.
The entire ACC did not produce a single Top 20 team in 2011. Winning the ACC in 2011 was pretty much the same as winning the Mountain West.
Fans at any SEC institution would have recognized this and fired a coach for losing 5.3 games per season and losing to his in-state rival 3 times in a row.
But at Clemson he gets more time because he led the team to 33-70 beating in the Orange Bowl. You are proving everyone's point.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:37 pm to Triple Daves
I was pulling for bama. I hate dabo just that much.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:54 pm to BHMKyle
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But if Bama suddenly goes 8-4 and fails to even win the West for three consecutive seasons, you better bet he'd be hearing it was time for him to retire. I don't even think it would take 3 seasons like that.... probably just 2.
Exactly what I said.
That's for picking up the fight!
I do think he's right about there being as much pressure to win at NC State as there is Auburn or Alabama.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:57 pm to DuncanIdaho
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as much pressure to win at NC State as there is Auburn or Alabama
I cant even read this with a straight face
and what Saban has done has bought him some time.. Cant really compare too many situations to that tho
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:58 pm to BHMKyle
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Auburn folks : What was your gut feeling seeing Dabo hoist that title trophy?
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Dabo won the ACC in his 3rd full season, t hat was the same year they lost to WV big in that bowl game.
The entire ACC did not produce a single Top 20 team in 2011. Winning the ACC in 2011 was pretty much the same as winning the Mountain West.
Fans at any SEC institution would have recognized this and fired a coach for losing 5.3 games per season and losing to his in-state rival 3 times in a row.
Fans at SEC schools or any school don't make the decisions. you are so dumb. if you think every Clemson fan was big on Dabo back then you are a special kind of stupid.
most colleges look at the entire picture, not just last season's W-L record. Recruiting is part of it. .
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:00 pm to Irons Puppet
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n you only have to get up for two games a year, it is easy to look like a contender. If Clemson had played UA or LSU schedule this year, they would not have played in the playoffs. Even as bad as the SEC was this year.
you such a SEC homer. lol SEC was horrible this year. no good offense at all. ACC has better head to head matchup record agaisnt SEC, and a better bowl record. but you still doing the mindless SEC cheerleading.
Clemson played the toughest schedule in the country. Who else was playing the equivalent of at Auburn last year to start the season off.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:20 pm to Tillman
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quote:n you only have to get up for two games a year, it is easy to look like a contender. If Clemson had played UA or LSU schedule this year, they would not have played in the playoffs. Even as bad as the SEC was this year. you such a SEC homer. lol SEC was horrible this year. no good offense at all. ACC has better head to head matchup record agaisnt SEC, and a better bowl record. but you still doing the mindless SEC cheerleading. Clemson played the toughest schedule in the country. Who else was playing the equivalent of at Auburn last year to start the season off.
I agree this was a terrible year in the SEC. My point is by the time you run the gauntlet of an SEC Schedule, you have either lost a few games you should have won or you have so many injuries at the end of the year you are not competitive. When you have three weeks to prep for you biggest game, depth is not as big an issue during the season.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:24 pm to Irons Puppet
the SEC wasn't better than the ACC this year. guantlet. lol what have you been watching. i would say there is less pressure in the SEC simply b/c the SEC hype becomes an excuse for losing.
Clemson's biggest win of the season was at FSU. not winning on a neutral field agasint a limited offense.
Clemson didn't need 3 weeks to destroy a SC team that was competitive in the SEC and had an outside shot of winning the SEC east this year.
Clemson's biggest win of the season was at FSU. not winning on a neutral field agasint a limited offense.
Clemson didn't need 3 weeks to destroy a SC team that was competitive in the SEC and had an outside shot of winning the SEC east this year.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:29 pm to bama will rise again
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I cant even read this with a straight face and what Saban has done has bought him some time.. Cant really compare too many situations to that tho
so why do other schools pay these coaches a lot of money if there is no expectation that they win? why has NC State fired coaches? you say there no expecation of winning. only places where coaches are expected to win are alabama and auburn and other sec schools.
just b/c nobody at NC Stat is expecting them to win a natty, it doesn' tmean that they aren't expecting some results from the coach. and obviously is harder to win at NC State than alabama, and clemson and other places. to say there is no pressure is obviously an absurd statement.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:44 pm to Tillman
Clemson opened with Auburn. Gus didn't have a clue of a gameplan.
Played Troy the next week (30-24), SC ST, GT before playing Louisville.
Then played BC, NC State before playing FSU.
Finished with SYRACUSE, losing to Pitt, then playing WF and USC.
Like I said, two game season.
Not much of a Gauntlet compared to playing AUB, MISS, AL, ARK, TN, UF and A&M in a row. Injuries and fatigue are good for at least two loses with that schedule.
Played Troy the next week (30-24), SC ST, GT before playing Louisville.
Then played BC, NC State before playing FSU.
Finished with SYRACUSE, losing to Pitt, then playing WF and USC.
Like I said, two game season.
Not much of a Gauntlet compared to playing AUB, MISS, AL, ARK, TN, UF and A&M in a row. Injuries and fatigue are good for at least two loses with that schedule.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:48 pm to Irons Puppet
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Tenn lost to SC, and Vandy. Texas AM was never that good and then lost Knight. NC State destroyed Vandy, Clemson destroyed SC.
Ole Miss's defense was horrible, as was Arkansas.
what was Auburnn's biggest win this year.
I think Pitt would have finished 2nd in the SEC and could have upset Alabama, who would not be able to exploit their biggest weakness, their pass defense.
florida as usual had a terrible offense.
I believe Troy won its conference annd could beat a number of SEC teams this year if they were in the game with Clemson.
Clemson is only team that has even been competitive with Alabama the last two seasons, none of the SEC teams have been, except for Ole Miss for two seasons.
you don't prove SEC was best conference this year, u just assert it b/c you are a cheerleader rather than objective.
Ole Miss finished with 3 wins but you included them when u puffed up the SEC lol.
I think Lville was actually the 5th or 6th best team in ACC this year. their O-line was terrible and really got exposed later in the year
Tenn lost to SC, and Vandy. Texas AM was never that good and then lost Knight. NC State destroyed Vandy, Clemson destroyed SC.
Ole Miss's defense was horrible, as was Arkansas.
what was Auburnn's biggest win this year.
I think Pitt would have finished 2nd in the SEC and could have upset Alabama, who would not be able to exploit their biggest weakness, their pass defense.
florida as usual had a terrible offense.
I believe Troy won its conference annd could beat a number of SEC teams this year if they were in the game with Clemson.
Clemson is only team that has even been competitive with Alabama the last two seasons, none of the SEC teams have been, except for Ole Miss for two seasons.
you don't prove SEC was best conference this year, u just assert it b/c you are a cheerleader rather than objective.
Ole Miss finished with 3 wins but you included them when u puffed up the SEC lol.
I think Lville was actually the 5th or 6th best team in ACC this year. their O-line was terrible and really got exposed later in the year
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:53 pm to Triple Daves
Didnt know we were supposed to hate Dabo. Funny how Bama fans are already trying to act like Bama should get credit for him because they think he is coming after Saban leaves. Give him a year or 2 without an all world QB and yall will be looking for someone else.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:00 pm to Tillman
Again a two game schedule. As bad as the SEC was this year (by SEC Standards), playing all those games in a row has a cumulative effect. Depth in December is the difference between making the playoffs or playing in a secondary bowl. FSU has known that for years, that is why Bowden did not want any part of the sec.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:03 pm to Irons Puppet
Ok, you are a SEC cheerleader. that is your excuse for losing and AUburn being mediocre Auburn would have been mediocre in every conference this year.
Clemson beat down Okla in a bowl two years ago with Cole Stoudt at QB. Auburn got destroyed by Okla this year.
i doubt you've even watched any ACC teams this year outside of Clemson, Lville and FSU. can you even name the top RB on Pitt and UNC. you can't even name them but both are going to be drafted.
the truth is SEC has largely been a 1 team conference since 2008 with the exception the Cam Newton year. there is a lack of creativity on offense in SEC and that plays into Saban's defensive scheme perfectly.
you SEC fans gush over Saban but the realitiy is your teams are a big part of his success.
IF SEC Is so competitive, how does the same program always seem to win the conference.
Clemson beat down Okla in a bowl two years ago with Cole Stoudt at QB. Auburn got destroyed by Okla this year.
i doubt you've even watched any ACC teams this year outside of Clemson, Lville and FSU. can you even name the top RB on Pitt and UNC. you can't even name them but both are going to be drafted.
the truth is SEC has largely been a 1 team conference since 2008 with the exception the Cam Newton year. there is a lack of creativity on offense in SEC and that plays into Saban's defensive scheme perfectly.
you SEC fans gush over Saban but the realitiy is your teams are a big part of his success.
IF SEC Is so competitive, how does the same program always seem to win the conference.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:11 pm to Tillman
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Ok, you are a SEC cheerleader. that is your excuse for losing and AUburn being mediocre Auburn would have been mediocre in every conference this year. Clemson beat down Okla in a bowl two years ago with Cole Stoudt at QB. Auburn got destroyed by Okla this year. i doubt you've even watched any ACC teams this year outside of Clemson, Lville and FSU. can you even name the top RB on Pitt and UNC. you can't even name them but both are going to be drafted. the truth is SEC has largely been a 1 team conference since 2008 with the exception the Cam Newtown year.
I suffered through my share of ACC Games. The league is a two team race every year, the problem is it is the same two teams and they are both in the same division. I also watched the Clemson-NC Game two years ago and the USC-Clemson game that year. Lucky Clemson had a schedule that allowed them to rest up before those games or they wouldn't have made the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:12 pm to Irons Puppet
ok so you love watching that one team SEC. last time AUburn won the conference, they had to get lucky against alabama. lol.
you just making excuses. if conference is so much better, why is AUburn 0-3 against Clemson the last 3 times?
your narrative about ACC makes no sense, b/c Va Tech has 4 titles, G Tech has 3 titles since expansion. Clemson and FSU have been better the past few years with NFL QBs but it is def. not a 2 team conference.
y ou take just the recent years in ACC and come up with a false narrative that it is always like this.
does that mean Bama was the top team in SEC prior to Saban?
you just making excuses. if conference is so much better, why is AUburn 0-3 against Clemson the last 3 times?
your narrative about ACC makes no sense, b/c Va Tech has 4 titles, G Tech has 3 titles since expansion. Clemson and FSU have been better the past few years with NFL QBs but it is def. not a 2 team conference.
y ou take just the recent years in ACC and come up with a false narrative that it is always like this.
does that mean Bama was the top team in SEC prior to Saban?
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:15 pm to Tillman
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ok so you love watching that one team SEC. last time AUburn won the conference, they had to get lucky against alabama. lol.
After playing the #1 and #4 Team in the Country back to back to even get a chance to play the #1 Team in the BCS. I'm not going to even list the early schedule, it would kill you.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:16 pm to Irons Puppet
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After playing the #1 and #4 Team in the Country back to back to even get a chance to play the #1 Team in the BCS. I'm not going to even list the early schedule, it would kill you.
those rankings were just inflated early season SEC bias rankings. lol
it is intersting that an AU burn fan is saying Clemson's schedule sucked last year given Clemson played at Auburn. I think at Auburn, SC and Troyat home was a good OOC schedule, better than most teams. lol
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:18 pm
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