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re: Auburn faithful...do you miss the steadiness of Tuberville?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:42 pm to bfniii
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:42 pm to bfniii
2 loss teams 8n the national title game doesn't happen every year
Look, you guys won, don't let the fact you didn't deserve it get in the way
Auburn still celebrates the appearance and they didn't deserve that one either, it happens
Look, you guys won, don't let the fact you didn't deserve it get in the way
Auburn still celebrates the appearance and they didn't deserve that one either, it happens
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:43 pm to warau
quote:i didn't say undefeated. i was talking about a season that didn't involve something like an ineligible player or two of the craziest bounce plays in the history of cfb. just normal games.
When is the last time LSU "straight up beat everyone"?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:46 pm to lefty08
quote:the number of losses has nothing to do with anything. what's relevant is the placement within the system. in that sense, lsu didn't "luck" into anything. only simpleminded fans who misunderstand the system think that.
2 loss teams 8n the national title game doesn't happen every year
quote:once again, not naming the teams who "deserved" it more than lsu, stating your criteria for why and justifying that criteria. the most famous non argument of all time. yet rantards keep defending the dumb idea.
they didn't deserve that one either
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:46 pm to bfniii
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LSU putting itself in the Bama boat shite is out of control.
explain why you think it's unreasonable.
Because you're closer to Georgia/Auburn both historically and at present than you are Alabama?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:48 pm to bfniii
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the number of losses has nothing to do with anything. what's relevant is the placement within the system. in that sense, lsu didn't "luck" into anything. only simpleminded fans who misunderstand the system think that.
When the state of football is such that a 2 loss team gets in, that is luck. You denying it repeatedly is laughable. This idea that you and Alabama are the country's perennial frontrunners just steamrolling CFB is hilarious (and fricking moronic).
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:50 pm to bfniii
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ineligible player
NCAA said he could play
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two of the craziest bounce plays in the history of cfb
Sure the UGA play was lucky, however, Auburn led almost the entire game. What's lucky about being in a tie game and having a coach try a 60 yard field goal?
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i didn't say undefeated
Straight up beat everyone is the same as undefeated no?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:50 pm to Pettifogger
quote:the point of the thread was about recent history, not results back to ww2 era. in that regard, lsu is the ONLY team in america who is even in the same zip code as bama whether it's results over 10 years or 5, record against ranked teams, winning percentage or whatever. lsu and bama are definitely in an area that other teams don't occupy.
historically
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:52 pm to bfniii
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the point of the thread was about recent history, not results back to ww2 era. in that regard, lsu is the ONLY team in america who is even in the same zip code as bama whether it's results over 10 years or 5, record against ranked teams, winning percentage or whatever. lsu and bama are definitely in an area that other teams don't occupy.
Bama is in an area LSU doesn't occupy
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:56 pm to Pettifogger
quote:you are welcome to continue being wrong. it's a system and lsu was, in relation to everyone, as worthy of being in the ncg as anybody. it had no more to do with "luck" as any bcs season and to continue to make this point is just ignorant.
When the state of football is such that a 2 loss team gets in, that is luck
quote:here's the challenge yet again. name the teams who "deserved" it more than lsu, state your criteria and justify it. let's see you drop the juvenile posturing and man up
You denying it repeatedly is laughable
quote:over the last 15, 10, 5 years, a pretty objective case can be made for that.
you and Alabama are the country's perennial frontrunners
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:57 pm to RandySavage
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Were you around in 2004? That was a better season than any coach coaching in the SEC right now has ever had.
Too bad he deride away 5 games in 2003 that ended up costing us a chance to play against USC for the championship. When you are preseason frontrunners and take a shite, don't expect sympathy the next year. Oklahoma was an early favorite in 2004 and did everything they could to get in the ship, they got rocked but they completed their schedule and started way out in front of us.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:58 pm to warau
quote:and emmert said the rules of amateurism were violated and that the "loophole" needed to be closed. everyone knows, including the ncaa, he was ineligible. he continued playing on a technicality. hence, the asterisk.
NCAA said he could play
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:59 pm to Pettifogger
quote:nothing i said denies this. but, lsu is the only team within shouting distance. in fact, going back to '03 or 2000, lsu can make a case to be about equal.
Bama is in an area LSU doesn't occupy
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:01 pm to bfniii
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here's the challenge yet again. name the teams who "deserved" it more than lsu, state your criteria and justify it. let's see you drop the juvenile posturing and man up
Haha you sure are persistent. You do realize nobody is saying LSU didn't deserve it, correct? People are saying it rarely ever happens and did the year you made it in. Several teams could win the title in a lot of years if they made it into the game. That you can't see this is bizarre.
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over the last 15, 10, 5 years, a pretty objective case can be made for that.
Alabama, yes.
LSU, only alongside several other programs.
The point is that Alabama is apart from every other program in recent history. Nobody disputes that. LSU, however, is not thought of in the same manner, as indicated by this thread (the concept would likely be even more poorly received nationally).
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:05 pm to bfniii
Dude, it's lucky meaning that it happened, not that they gamed the system in a normal season.
How often does a team lose two games late in the season to unranked teams and get to play for the MNC?
That's insane. It's a once in a lifetime fluke that Vegas would have probably given 500-1 odds against.
NOBODY outside of the state of Louisiana takes LSU's 2007 championship seriously. Nobody. You're right behind 1984 BYU in the headscratcher department.
Again, you won it fair and square under the rules of the system, but you obviously benefited from a fluke that hasn't happened in 100 years of cfb and probably won't happen in another 100 years.
Well, ok, maybe there's a better chance now that there's a playoff, but under the old models, no.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:07 pm to bfniii
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the conversation was about the last few years and you reach back to lousiana hayride era elvis
Actually you made a comment about LSU "straight up" beating everyone on the schedule. That's just how far I had to go back for the last time that actually happened.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:09 pm to AUFANATL
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NOBODY outside of the state of Louisiana takes LSU's 2007 championship seriously. Nobody. You're right behind 1984 BYU in the headscratcher department.
For the record I take it seriously, as it counts. But LSU fans using it as an example of Bama-like dominance is laughable.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:10 pm to bfniii
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notice how no one ever names the other teams who deserved to be in the ncg more than lsu, their criteria and why their criteria is justified. they just ape the usual LSU SUCKS AND GOT LUCKY.
Maybe LSU was the best, maybe they weren't.
But yes you got lucky. There are dozens of Power 5 teams who lose 2 games every year, usually to much better teams than Arkansas and Kentucky. LSU is the ONLY one in modern college football history to be handed a shot at a national title after doing so.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:11 pm to bfniii
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"straight up beat everyone"?
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i didn't say undefeated
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:13 pm to Pettifogger
quote:does not equal "luck" like a few uninformed people in this thread keep repeating
rarely ever happens
quote:i never said that it wasn't unusual. cfb is incredibly complex and all sorts of crazy things happen in a season in order for 2 teams to make it all the way. people just have a particular misconception about '07
That you can't see this is bizarre
quote:and they would be?
LSU, only alongside several other programs
quote:perhaps by some uninformed people, sure.
LSU, however, is not thought of in the same manner
quote:and once again, you are wrong
the concept would likely be even more poorly received nationally
you don't know what you are talking about
hopefully this clears up your misconception
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:14 pm to bfniii
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, lsu is the ONLY team in america who is even in the same zip code as bama whether it's results over 10 years or 5
Except Auburn has the same number of titles as LSU in the last 10 years, more in the last 5 and that doesn't include a 2 loss "national championship". It does include a 14-0.
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