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re: Auburn faithful...do you miss the steadiness of Tuberville?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:14 am to PharmacistReb
Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:14 am to PharmacistReb
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Didn't Tuberville beat Alabama like 6 years in a row? That's one of the glaring omissions in this thread.
He did get 6 in a row against Alabama but he was also facing Alabama at their worst ten year span in probably 40 years. Alabama was a shite team and still out recruited Tubs with who they got to campus. Hell, overall the whole SEC was shite during his tenure at Auburn with a couple exceptions.
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:30 am to Presh
AU was also in a bit of a unique situation. We weren't just in a MNC draught, but we had suffered through a lot of "close calls" in the modern era - 1983: when the final polls were released, 1988: when we lost the earthquake game, 1993: undefeated but on probation; 2004: our best team, etc.
I've thought about this bizaare jeckyl-hyde pattern a lot, and glad you posted this thread because I've asked the question of others too.
My answer in 2012: I didn't care. I was happy to accept inconsistency and trade the fiasco seasons we've endured just to finally hoist that trophy and get the monkey off our back.
My answer in 2015: I'm sick of it. We have our national championship trophy, complete with perfect season and Heisman trophy. I have the perfect Dream Season checked off my bucket list. The blissful magic of 2013 and the trip to Pasadena was just a cherry on top. I am now ready to go back to the good ol' days of hard nosed AU football, grinding out 8-10 win seasons, losing a game we shouldn't and playing in a New Year's bowl. Let someone ELSE take our seat on the roller coaster, I'd rather be Wisconsin at this point, even if you guaranteed me that we would not play for another anytime soon.
I can empathize with UGA fans however, and Oregon too. It's like going on a date with a different hot chick every weekend but never getting laid
Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:33 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Well, if you just look at recent history, we have a championship team every 3-5 years. I'd take tubbs stability with a championship team every 5-8 years. 2004 happened.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:37 am to Presh
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Auburn is a great test case for fans: Do you prefer higher highs and lower lows from your favorite team, or a more stable program that doesn't win big enough? Georgia fans are curious about the answer.
Auburn is supremely lucky. They caught lightening in a bottle twice. Not every team gets a star JUCO QB recruit and he actually ends up a star on your team. They've done it twice. In 2013, they were super lucky at the end of several games, in 2010, they won the lotto with a freak of nature JUCO QB.
As an LSU fan, I'd take some of that luck myself. Seems like we drained the barrel in 2007 and after years of really bad luck, we just might be the team of destiny this year.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:23 pm to lowspark12
quote:i think i'm ok with miles. he's as close as you can get to stability and championships other than saban. heck, even urban can't say that
there isn't a fanbase outside of Alabama and fsu that wouldnt trade the last five years with auburn.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:29 pm to Datbayoubengal
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LSU fan
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Auburn is supremely lucky.
Define Irony- A Two Loss team that backdoored its way to the NC calling another team lucky.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:34 pm to AUFANATL
quote:i have to say i'm a little surprised by some of the reactions like this. i guess i just assumed all auburn fans were ok with how things have been playing out.
My answer in 2015: I'm sick of it. We have our national championship trophy, complete with perfect season and Heisman trophy. I have the perfect Dream Season checked off my bucket list. The blissful magic of 2013 and the trip to Pasadena was just a cherry on top. I am now ready to go back to the good ol' days of hard nosed AU football, grinding out 8-10 win seasons, losing a game we shouldn't and playing in a New Year's bowl. Let someone ELSE take our seat on the roller coaster, I'd rather be Wisconsin at this point, even if you guaranteed me that we would not play for another anytime soon
my take is this - over the last several years, schools have brought in coaches who created a great deal of excitement, only for that excitement to fizzle as i knew it would (watch out fla). the sec is brutal. it even made urban quit. the only guys who have survived are richt, miles and saban. richt hasn't had elite success but, he's been stable. miles and saban have found a winning formula.
i think gus can be a successful coach but, only if he adjusts to the conference, the players, his staff, etc. miles and saban have done this several times. gus can't stick with the same scheme every year. the sec is too good and other coaches will absolutely find ways to exploit it. chavis is a perfect example. he was great but, teams found a way to get the better of him at crucial times. al borges is another great example. he was on top of the mountain and then auburn couldn't run him out of town fast enough.
bert, mcilwain, sumlin, freeze, butch, all the same story. they better adapt and adjust if they want to be consistently successful.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:35 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:one of the most popular memes on the rant getting parroted once again. lsu was the best team in '07. no one deserved to be in the ncg more than lsu.
A Two Loss team that backdoored its way to the NC calling another team lucky.
This post was edited on 11/1/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:37 pm to bfniii
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so it's not like they had an lsu type season where they just straight up beat everyone.
Were you even alive in 1958 bro?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:38 pm to bfniii
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no one deserved to be in the ncg more than lsu.
Your opinion is irrelevant. The fact is LSU needed two teams to lose on the final weekend to get there. Something that was beyond your control, twice. It took a huge amount of luck for both of those things to happen.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:40 pm to Warfarer
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UGA fans are in the same boat as us with Tubs, good man and good coach but you won't win shite with him there because he will derp a few away.
Were you around in 2004? That was a better season than any coach coaching in the SEC right now has ever had.
This post was edited on 11/1/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:44 pm to bfniii
LSU lost their last game of the season and played for a national title with 2 losses, excusing this had nothing to do with luck is ignorant
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:45 pm to bfniii
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no one deserved to be in the ncg
You should have just stopped right there. 2007 is a joke and your team didn't earn anything. You lost to Arkansas and Kentucky and nothing else really needs to be said.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:30 pm to RandySavage
quote:randy! what's up?
RandySavage
the conversation was about the last few years and you reach back to lousiana hayride era elvis
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:33 pm to bfniii
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lsu/bama
Haha this LSU putting itself in the Bama boat shite is out of control.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:33 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:it's not an opinion. it's a fact. name the teams that deserved to be in the ncg more than lsu. state your criteria and justify them.
Your opinion is irrelevant
quote:EVERY team that has ever made the ncg has needed other teams to lose or needed people to VOTE them into the game. even in the computer aided bcs era.
The fact is LSU needed two teams to lose on the final weekend to get there
quote:so because other teams made more mistakes than lsu, that's lsu fault.
Something that was beyond your control, twice. It took a huge amount of luck for both of those things to happen.
this has already been beaten to death years ago, sisyphus.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:36 pm to lefty08
quote:what's ignorant is acting like this doesn't happen every year and acting like lsu didn't deserve to be in the ncg. good grief. you people are dragging up an old meme today. this one died a long, long time ago. well, for informed people i guess.
excusing this had nothing to do with luck is ignorant
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:40 pm to bfniii
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bfniii
When is the last time LSU "straight up beat everyone"?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:41 pm to RandySavage
quote:so ole miss didn't deserve to beat bama? bama made more mistakes than ole miss and bama deserved to lose. same principle. other teams didn't get the job done. lsu had beaten 6 ranked teams up to that point. who else had done that?
2007 is a joke and your team didn't earn anything
quote:randy, when you're adamantly defending a losing proposition, you probably shouldn't say things like this.
You should have just stopped right there
notice how no one ever names the other teams who deserved to be in the ncg more than lsu, their criteria and why their criteria is justified. they just ape the usual LSU SUCKS AND GOT LUCKY.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 2:42 pm to Pettifogger
quote:explain why you think it's unreasonable.
LSU putting itself in the Bama boat shite is out of control.
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