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re: Athlon's ranks SEC Coaches ahead of 2014 season
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:48 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:48 pm to RollTide1987
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Your QB was the first pick in the NFL Draft, and you likewise had a DT who went in the first round.
You also have Neiko Thorpe, AJ Greene, Ben Tate, Ontario McCaleb, Josh Harris, Cory Lemonier, as well as a few others in the NFL.
That team had NFL-caliber talent.
But not A LOT of NFL-caliber talent
AJ Greene... El Matador
Ben Tate was 2009
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 7:49 pm
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:48 pm to Prof
I agree with you, but that is also a part of what makes a great coach. Getting all the bad-asses to buy your bullshite.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:52 pm to thirdlawson
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But not A LOT of NFL-caliber talent
I never said there had to be a lot in my OP:
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Can you name me a single team in the BCS era that didn't win a national championship with NFL-caliber talent scattered around?
I simply said "NFL-caliber talent scattered around." 2010 Auburn had NFL-caliber talent scattered around.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:59 pm to thirdlawson
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4. Mark Richt, Georgia
5. Les Miles, LSU
I would put Miles ahead of Richt but an argument can be made either way.
Sustained Success - Push
Division Titles - Richt (Big disparity here but to be fair Miles has had to go up against the best program in football every year since 07)
SEC Titles - Push
BCS Titles - Miles (1-0 which puts him ahead for me)
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:01 pm to thirdlawson
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6. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
7. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
8. Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss
9. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
10. Butch Jones, Tennessee
11. Will Muschamp, Florida
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:02 pm to JuiceTerry
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Richt hasn't won multiple SEC championships? Nobody cares about losing title games..
Richt has won 2.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:05 pm to adammwilson
Think thats about right for Pinkel
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:06 pm to craigbiggio
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Gus is too high and Muschamp is too low.
I agree.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:07 pm to wstorie44
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Think thats about right for Pinkel
No. A year ago everyone wanted him fired. He had one good year with a team with a bunch of upper classman on it.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:09 pm to thirdlawson
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12. Brett Bielema, Arkansas
13. Mark Stoops, Kentucky
14. Derek Mason, Vanderbilt
Big 3
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:10 pm to thirdlawson
1. Nick Saban, Alabama
2. Les Miles, LSU
3. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
4. Gus Malzahn, Auburn
5. Mark Richt, Georgia
6. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
7. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M (It hurts him his teams have such awful defenses)
8. Will Muschamp, Florida
9. Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss (Really interested to see how he does this year and next.)
10. Brett Bielema, Arkansas
11. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
12. Butch Jones, Tennessee
13. Mark Stoops, Kentucky
14. Derek Mason, Vanderbilt
2. Les Miles, LSU
3. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
4. Gus Malzahn, Auburn
5. Mark Richt, Georgia
6. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
7. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M (It hurts him his teams have such awful defenses)
8. Will Muschamp, Florida
9. Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss (Really interested to see how he does this year and next.)
10. Brett Bielema, Arkansas
11. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
12. Butch Jones, Tennessee
13. Mark Stoops, Kentucky
14. Derek Mason, Vanderbilt
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:16 pm to adammwilson
Richt higher. Even if I do give him grief.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:17 pm to thirdlawson
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:17 pm to nc14
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Richt higher. Even if I do give him grief.
Over who though? Richt hasn't won a Natty.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:22 pm to adammwilson
Neither has Gus.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:23 pm to JuiceTerry
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I agree with you, but that is also a part of what makes a great coach. Getting all the bad-asses to buy your bullshite.
Oh I agree - you can't really separate recruiting when doing an *overall* measure of performance (well maybe with Saban but only because he's had four straight number 1 classes***). I'm just curious to see where he and others fall in things like XOs and player development.
***Here's the top 2 roster rankings in the SEC as well as the nation (5 year average) and the difference is pretty fricking astounding:
Team-------'14---'13---'12---'11---'10---Avg.
1.Alabama- 1 -- 1 -- 1 --- 1 ---- 5 -- 1.8
2t.FSU. ---- 4 -- 10 -- 3 -- 2 ---- 9 -- 5.6
2t.Florida -- 9 --- 3 -- 4 -- 11 --- 1 -- 5.6
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:26 pm to adammwilson
Ok then where would you.rank Pinkel then
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:29 pm to Prof
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player development
As far as player development, Saban is one of the best there is. Just look at how many players he's put into the first round since 2008. As far as Xs and Os goes, there's no one better on the defensive side of the football. Alabama has led the SEC in Total Defense every year since 2008. That is unprecedented in the history of this conference.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:37 pm to RollTide1987
I think the one thing Saban lacks, and it's pretty important, is in-game, shift-on-the-fly, adjustments..especially in high-pressure ballgames. Either doesn't do enough, or get's too cute. That's 5 hyphens, biatches..
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:39 pm to thirdlawson
Gus at 3 is a complete joke. He has one "good" year winning 6 games by a TD, or less and needed a miracle in both the UGA games (against a TERRIBLE DEFENSE) and against Alabama and lost to a mediocre LSU team and the most overrated Champion in the BCS era.
Get the frick outta here....
Gimmick coaches are just that. UGA will bring them back down to reality this year when they finally make the trip back to Athens.
Get the frick outta here....
Gimmick coaches are just that. UGA will bring them back down to reality this year when they finally make the trip back to Athens.
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