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re: Athlon's ranks SEC Coaches ahead of 2014 season

Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:58 pm to
Yea, earlier. You must have missed it.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:59 pm to
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Exactly, they were out coached.


Yeah for the first 1 1/2 quarters.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:59 pm to
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Exactly, they were out coached.


Completely disagree. Auburn simply didn't have a good enough defense last year.
Posted by thirdlawson
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:00 pm to
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Gus at 3 is a complete joke. He has one "good" year winning 6 games by a TD, or less and needed a miracle in both the UGA games (against a TERRIBLE DEFENSE) and against Alabama and lost to a mediocre LSU team and the most overrated Champion in the BCS era.

Get the frick outta here....

Gimmick coaches are just that. UGA will bring them back down to reality this year when they finally make the trip back to Athens.



Posted by AdamsHouseCat
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:00 pm to
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2002 probably. We came in 3rd in the country.


By the way, this season that you deem Georgia's best in the BCS era, was a season in which Georgia too won a total of six games by a touchdown or less.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 9:03 pm
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:00 pm to
And the defense did enough to win.

Special teams lost the game.
Posted by ToddIIGurley
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:01 pm to
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re: Athlon's ranks SEC Coaches ahead of 2014 season (Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:56 pm to ToddIIGurley) quote: They played one good team all year. They dodged a bullet getting the Auburn match up. Auburn was also winning that game with 13 seconds to go and blew it on the last play. Florida State was completely overrated. You can't be serious. They played Clemson who won a BCS bowl game. They played Maryland who were ranked and doing well before injuries crippled them. They beat a top 10 Miami team. Miami were undefeated before the matchup and lost their best player during the game. They beat a ranked Duke team who gave Texas a&m a great and tough bowl game. they beat an Auburn team that won the SEC and had a dominant offense. How did they dodge a bullet getting Auburn? Don't tell me Auburn were not the 2nd best team in the country last year. It went back and forth most of the second half.


Clemson is who I was referencing. We agree there.
Maryland? Pass.
Miami?? That's some funny shite, brother!!
Duke?? Keep going... Nothing to see here ATM doesn't play defense.
A dominant offense, yet escaped 6 games by a TD, or less and lost two games? Got it. They dominated.


Anyone else?
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:02 pm to
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This season that you deem Georgia's best in the BCS era by the way, was a season in which Georgia also won a total of six games by a touchdown or less.


OK? Great.... What's your point? Wins are wins. Y'all weren't exactly blowin teams out this season. Doesn't make it any less impressive.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:02 pm to
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Don't forget the importance of ST
Sadly, Bama's special teams were solid as hell all season until the Debacle at the Dye..
Posted by ToddIIGurley
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:02 pm to
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Auburn simply didn't have a good enough defense last year.


Thank you!! It finally comes out! What is the head coaches job?

Top 3 in the league because he can call plays? Again. No... IMHO, of course.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:03 pm to
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What is the head coaches job? 
Win games?
Posted by ToddIIGurley
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Yea, earlier. You must have missed it.


I did, apologies.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Miami?? That's some funny shite, brother!!


Did you miss where their best player got hurt? They would have done much much better.

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Duke?? Keep going... Nothing to see here ATM doesn't play defense.

Not the point. Still a ranked team.

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A dominant offense, yet escaped 6 games by a TD, or less and lost two games? Got it. They dominated.

I guess I should have said they were dominant after hitting their stride after the W. Carolina game and beating a&m the next week.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:05 pm to
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Clemson is who I was referencing. We agree there.
Maryland? Pass.
Miami?? That's some funny shite, brother!!
Duke?? Keep going... Nothing to see here ATM doesn't play defense.
A dominant offense, yet escaped 6 games by a TD, or less and lost two games? Got it. They dominated.


Anyone else?


Why are you acting like you just proved what he said was wrong? Miami and Duke were both good teams last year. Just because you say you will "pass" doesn't mean shite.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:05 pm to
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Thank you!! It finally comes out! What is the head coaches job?

Top 3 in the league because he can call plays? Again. No... IMHO, of course.


Well considering he is an offensive minded HC he wouldn't have much to do with the defense. Coaching on D wasn't the problem. It was a lack of talent. That being said, they still did very very well and almost won a natty.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:07 pm to
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I think the one thing Saban lacks, and it's pretty important, is in-game, shift-on-the-fly, adjustments..especially in high-pressure ballgames. Either doesn't do enough, or get's too cute. That's 5 hyphens, biatches..


I'd agree with you there but I don't think it will ever change. He is pre-planner by nature. It's his analysis and game planning ahead of time that's his greatest strength outside of recruiting and when he has time he's often able to work through enough 'what if' scenarios. Conversely, he doesn't adjust nearly as well to the unexpected. It's just the way his mind operates as well as a part of his overall personality.

JFF's spontaneity and improv skills were just as big of a problem for Saban as Manziel's innate talent. It's difficult to pre-plan for the level of spontaneity JFF played with in his college days.

This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 9:08 pm
Posted by ToddIIGurley
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:08 pm to
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Win games?


Agree, to a point, however, there is much more to it. Their job is to prepare these kids in all aspects of the game. Had he made the right coaching decisions to complete on the defensive side of the ball, Auburn would have been pretty deadly all year and they would have won a National Championship. He didn't do this. Therefore, with him being so fresh into this league there is no way I would put him at the number 3 spot. If they do the same thing next year and win it all? Sure. However, Les deserves to be ahead of him, no doubt. CMR even has an argument, but he cares too much about handicapping our players with the rules to win it all.

Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:09 pm to
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It's difficult to pre-plan for the level of spontaneity JFF played with in his college days.



Chief damn sure figured him out..
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43871 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:10 pm to
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Agree, to a point, however, there is much more to it. Their job is to prepare these kids in all aspects of the game. Had he made the right coaching decisions to complete on the defensive side of the ball, Auburn would have been pretty deadly all year and they would have won a National Championship.


Are you serious? 90% of college head coaches don't make the calls on offense or defense. Auburn's problem on D wasn't coaching, it was talent.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:10 pm to
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but he cares too much about handicapping our players with the rules to win it all.


Yeah, that's it. I guess you should get a new coach then.
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