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re: Athlon Sports Coach Rankings

Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:57 am to
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11588 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:57 am to
Lol.

Les Miles at LSU
112-32
1 NC
2 SEC Championships
3 SEC West Division Titles
2011 National Coach of the year

Not to mention draft picks, annual award winners, all american players, all sec players, etc.

Top 15 easy no matter how much you want to clown him.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

"you responded negatively to the article I posted and I took it personally"



Seriously, I replied to the OP because the article was trash and he took it personally. Does he not know how this site works?
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30602 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:17 pm to
I like Les Miles around the 15-20 range.
Posted by TheDarrell McSteal
423
Member since Sep 2015
3300 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Butch above Les, Gus, and McElwain is a terrible joke.


He's taken a 5 win trash heap of a roster and turned them into preseason NC contenders in 3 seasons. Butch is one hell of a program builder imo
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:23 pm to
Bielema too low.
Butch too high.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11217 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:24 pm to
Preseason NC contenders

just because espn says it doesn't mean it's true
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:26 pm to
Great logic lol

I guess that means Freeze has been better than Saban the past two years based on head to head
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
Member since Nov 2015
3561 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:28 pm to
Even Athlon and Phil Steele are on board
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3067 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:30 pm to
Yeah, I can maybe see above Gus/McElwain in the sense that he's a really good recruiter and has improved every year as apposed to the sporadic nature of Gus and the lack of years in SEC from McElwain but it's pretty stupid to have him ahead of Les. And cases could certainly be made for him to be behind the other two as well (which will be evident after this year).
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

25. Les Miles, LSU 10.2 wins per season in SEC for 11 years.

23. Butch Jones, Tennessee 7 wps in SEC for 3 years.
20. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State 8 wps in SEC for 7 years.
18. Bret Bielema, Arkansas 6 wps in SEC for 3 years.




I'm sure there's a logical explanation. For good measure, Freeze is avg. 8.5 wps in SEC for his tenure at OM.
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:33 pm to
Derek Mason at LSU would win more games than Les Miles.

Les Miles has only maintained, he hasn't built that program.
Posted by BufordPuser
McNairy County, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
1297 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:33 pm to
Butch Jones coaches circles around Les Miles. Anyone who says other wise is dumber than hell.
Posted by TheDarrell McSteal
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Member since Sep 2015
3300 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Preseason NC contenders

just because espn says it doesn't mean it's true


Everyone says it. VOLS average preseason ranking is #7 iirc.

Hope Arkansas has another successful season and can go bowling in Memphis again
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:52 pm to
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Maybe because he gets top 10 recruiting classes yet can't win the SEC. Maybe the rankings are a look at the whole picture. As a coach doing more with less, would imply the coach is better but yet what do I know. Yes Miles can recruit and has a NC but LSU is more of a dominant power than Arkansas, yet Arkansas has out coached and beat LSU two seasons in a row.


If the article said game day coaching ranking then maybe.
When hired as a coach you are hired as the whole package. The CEO and head of football operations

Yes Bert has out game day coached and beat less 2 years in a row. During that same time frame he has also been out coached and lost to teams les hasn't.

les has finished in the top 5 four different times in his eleven years here. With more top 10 finishes.
He has 3 west titles, 2 conferences titles, 1 NC and played for another.
We are currently projected top 5 for next season.

He's averaged more wins here than ole miss has reached in any single season

If that's the 25th best coach in college football the world better watch out when LSU hires a coach around 10th
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 1:01 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:00 pm to
ITT LSU fans explain why the coach they wanted to fire last season is so damn underaporeciated.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:45 pm to
So Sumlin is 3-1 vs. Mullen, and 4-0 against Bielema, but they are ranked much higher?

Who has Butch beaten?

Typical off season list.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Everyone says it. VOLS average preseason ranking is #7 iirc.

And you know those predictions are always spot-on
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86461 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:48 pm to
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Didn't realize 24 other coaches have won a national championship and multiple conference championships.


I agree that Miles at 25 is horrendous. Like, there is no justifaction for him being that low.

However, just because he has a title doesn't automatically catapult him into the top 5 or whatever. I mean hell chizik won a title and he doesnt' belong anywhere near the top of a coach ranking list.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:51 pm to
Well he did say "and multiple conference championships"...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

However, just because he has a title doesn't automatically catapult him into the top 5 or whatever. I mean hell chizik won a title and he doesnt' belong anywhere near the top of a coach ranking list


Miles should come in right around 15 going into the season.
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