re: Athlon Sports Coach Rankings

People can bash Butch all they want but I think he is doing a good job. Do I think he is the greatest in game coach or has he always surrounded himself with top tier assistants, maybe not. But he recruits amazingly and I think the team is improving.

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People can bash Butch all they want but I think he is doing a good job

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We bash the guy but I think everyone can realize he's donig a very good job. Took over a complete pile and has gotten them better every year.

I think the way he's lost games is what makes people tend to not give him more credit. Especially last season. And as SOG said, this is the put up or shut up year. There's only 1 team for sure (bama) that they won't be clearly more talented than, and they're probably on roughly equal footing with UF and UGA. Or at least in the same ballpark. If they lose 3 or 4 games again this year I don't know how much more they can expect.

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Although the rant will deny and laugh, that's the truth. Even if you limit that statement to taking a trash heap to top 10 what has happened is undeniable.

Criticize CBJ for his stupid media talk/cheesy sayings or for the few times he's made a stupid call but there's no denying that he's one hell of a program builder without simply going full homer.

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I mean, there's some very valid criticisms about his in game coaching that he definitely needs to improve on but he's done a tremendous job of flipping the roster.

Anyone that denies this should go watch a VOLS game from 2013 and look at all the lumbering slaw we had on both sides of the ball. We looked like a bunch of middle schoolers trying to chase down Oregon's athletes Fast forward three seasons and everyone agrees Tennessee is one of the most athletic and talented teams in the country. The credit there goes to Butch

This is a terrible list.

Can someone please explain to me why Beluga is given such a free pass and praised for a sub .500 record?

Arkansas football the past 5 years:

2010: 10-3 (Petrino)
2011: 11-2 (Petrino)
2012: 4-8 (Smith)
2013: 3-9 (Bielema)
2014: 7-6 (Bielema)
2015: 8-5 (Bielema)

He took over a program that was just a couple years removed from competing for the SEC Title, and he's only managed an 18-20 record.

Meanwhile, Butch Jones took over a Tennessee program that was in far worse shape and he's managed a 21-17 record... better than Bert... plus he has his team starting off in the preseason Top 10 this year.

Gus Malzahn took over a program in a similar situation to Arkansas... a losing season the year before his arrival, but just two years removed from some pretty good football teams. He's managed a 27-13 record over the same period of time as a head coach... including a 2-1 record against Bert, with the loss coming in Fayetteville in 4 overtimes.

Hugh Freeze has been at Ole Miss just one more year than Bert has been at Arkansas... yet Freeze has put together a total record of 34-18, including two wins over Nick Saban. Yet he's only rated one slot better in the coaching rankings compared to Bert? #17 vs. #18?

And you're really going to put Bert 7 spots ahead of Les Miles? A man that has accumulated a record of 112-32 at LSU? He won a National Championship in Year 3 at LSU and played for another one in Year 7. It took him until the latter half of his 8th season at LSU to lose his 20th game... a mark Beilema hit at the end of his 3rd season.

So is this just based in the last two years? Cause if that's the case then yes I agree with the lost and where Miles is ranked.

If total body of work then miles is wayyyyyy to low

So Kirby Smart is ranked at 54 without ever coaching a game as a head coach all while Butch Jones/Hugh Freeze are above two coaches that have won the SEC and coached a team to the national championship?

List is not legit.

ETA: I'll give Bret a pass on his spot due to his success at Wisky, but he's entering his 4th year, so if he can't match Bobby's best season next year he's not deserving of his spot.

he's an idiot that thinks word count on posts equates to intelligence level.

I can't get over the fact that Michigan's Harbaugh is ranked #3. He's even ranked over a coach that beat him head to head in his one season of college coaching.

What has he done? He has gone 10-3 in his one season of coaching college football and spent the night with recruits.

And he can't be judged on his NFL career, because this isn't the Pro's.

How many recruiting classes did John L. Smith have again? You'd think that he was there for at least three seasons the way Bert is venerated.

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What has he done? He has gone 10-3 in his one season of coaching college football

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uhhhh did you completely forget that he made Stanford into what they are today?