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re: Arkansas fans, let's come clean. Air this out once & 4 all..
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:52 pm to sugatowng
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:52 pm to sugatowng
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So is Nutt your third cousin removed and it hurt your feelings when he was not allowed to coach the Arkansas Razorbacks football team any longer? I mean 10 years and no national championship or out right SEC championship that would get you canned at Vandy or Kentucky. I think you are far worst than any normal Razorback fan. You loved the Nutt so much that you like him think Arkansas was nothing with him and will be nothing without him. Only thing is Bob Petrino will have us playing awesome offensively-- if we happen to find some great defensive players i.e. atwater, batman Carroll than we will be pretty dominate and everything will be OK.
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So is Nutt your third cousin removed and it hurt your feelings when he was not allowed to coach the Arkansas Razorbacks football team any longer? I mean 10 years and no national championship or out right SEC championship that would get you canned at Vandy or Kentucky. I think you are far worst than any normal Razorback fan. You loved the Nutt so much that you like him think Arkansas was nothing with him and will be nothing without him. Only thing is Bob Petrino will have us playing awesome offensively-- if we happen to find some great defensive players i.e. atwater, batman Carroll than we will be pretty dominate and everything will be OK.
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Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:21 pm to HawgAlude
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:24 pm to DeuceisLoose
Deuce. that is ok though. Alot of coaches that recruit against Petrino might use clips and articles like that against him. But, he's going to tell them that he's staying forever and I'm sure that will be the truth and they'll believe him.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:28 pm to HawgAlude
Here are a few quick take-aways.
There are schools who are not geographically gifted with great talent in their backyard, and yes Tenn is one of them.
So is OU.
Who in the world would actually wants to go to Blackburg, VA? Have you been there?
Michigan has very little talent (some in Detroit, that is about it), if you look at their great teams they are populated with OH athletes.
Colorado won a NC in the 90s.
Ole Miss and MS State compete with LSU, Bama, Auburn and Tenner for MS talent. Do not even pretend there is a fence around that state by any program.
Notre Dame no longer has any advantage other than a rich alumni tradition, hell Montana's kid went to WA.
Resources do matter, but when a school has the resources that most of the SEC has that point becomes somewhat moot. About every school has nice facilities.
What matters the most is the coach and his ablity to recruit top talent, develop that talent, prepare for and manage game day.
There are schools who are not geographically gifted with great talent in their backyard, and yes Tenn is one of them.
So is OU.
Who in the world would actually wants to go to Blackburg, VA? Have you been there?
Michigan has very little talent (some in Detroit, that is about it), if you look at their great teams they are populated with OH athletes.
Colorado won a NC in the 90s.
Ole Miss and MS State compete with LSU, Bama, Auburn and Tenner for MS talent. Do not even pretend there is a fence around that state by any program.
Notre Dame no longer has any advantage other than a rich alumni tradition, hell Montana's kid went to WA.
Resources do matter, but when a school has the resources that most of the SEC has that point becomes somewhat moot. About every school has nice facilities.
What matters the most is the coach and his ablity to recruit top talent, develop that talent, prepare for and manage game day.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:34 pm to SLC
SLC, I hate to break this to you but Petrino is not a very good recruiter. You can make your "best class ever in 09" arguement. ON paper it might be as good as Arkansas 99 class that had Cobbs, Bua, and all those. I don't see them winning the west though like Nutt did by the time they are seniors. His recruiting at Louisville starting slipping by the second class. Only 2 of those made the NFL and they were local talents. and in years before 4 and 5 per year were making it. People like Dyer, Parker Mack, Byran JOnes don't want to play for this guy b/c he don't give a frick about players like Nutt did.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:37 pm to wildrebeltime
enlighten us why/how he doesn't care about the players?
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:37 pm to wildrebeltime
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like Nutt did.
Wes Murphy?? Come on...You don't really believe the shite you are selling...
Dyer didn't want to play for Nutt...If he was still here, you can bet Dyer would probably be heading to LSU...
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:38 pm to blackrose890
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enlighten us why/how he doesn't care about the players?
The letter?
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:38 pm to wildrebeltime
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People like Mallett, Tyler Wilson, Darin Winston don't want to play for this guy b/c he don't give a frick about players like Petrino does.
there I fixed it for you WRT.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:38 pm to wildrebeltime
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I don't think I've ever bragged about BP. My attitude is more of "wait and see". I think he is a good coach, but he has to prove it to me.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:40 pm to pankReb
lol. Nice one Pank but sarcasm is extremely unneeded at the moment.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:41 pm to blackrose890
Well.....it was only half-sarcasm.
But that whole situation doesn't really help your side of the argument though.
But that whole situation doesn't really help your side of the argument though.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:44 pm to pankReb
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Well.....it was only half-sarcasm.
But that whole situation doesn't really help your side of the argument though.
So, do you really want to take up for the players who gave up on their season when their leader, Michael Vick, was arrested.
The same players that wore "Free Michael Vick" shirts before games?
Do you really want to take up for a franchise that fired Dan Reeves with 3 games left in the season?
Come on, BP did not do the right thing but nobody at the Falcons organization was a victim.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:45 pm to pankReb
I'm not arguing Petrino to be perfect, but leaving a pro team so you can go back to coaching at the college level appears to me that he cares about the kids.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:45 pm to SLC
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but I'm a little argumentative tonight.
Dont' know why.
Dont' know why.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:51 pm to SLC
I never said that i was taking up for the Falcon players. But to be honest, I'm sure that Vick was good friends with his teammates. If one of your best friends got busted for a crime such as his....wouldn't you react somewhat the same(i.e. Free Vick)
And I'm not saying he doesn't care about his players at Arky, I was just stating that the letter situation doesn't help your argument what so ever.
And I'm not saying he doesn't care about his players at Arky, I was just stating that the letter situation doesn't help your argument what so ever.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:52 pm to blackrose890
Blackrose it says to me that he was totally in over his head, he couldn't develop a QB, he had no confidence that if he stayed he could help draft and develop the next QB (turned out to be Matt Ryan who was good) The players didn't like him, they didn't play hard.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:55 pm to wildrebeltime
So the fact that his family hated it there and the team wanted nothing to do with a drill instructor after years of a player's coach had nothing to do with it and it's all Petrino's fault?
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:57 pm to blackrose890
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So the fact that his family hated it there and the team wanted nothing to do with a drill instructor after years of a player's coach had nothing to do with it and it's all Petrino's fault?
Sounds about right.
Posted on 6/23/09 at 9:57 pm to pankReb
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I never said that i was taking up for the Falcon players. But to be honest, I'm sure that Vick was good friends with his teammates. If one of your best friends got busted for a crime such as his....wouldn't you react somewhat the same(i.e. Free Vick)
And I'm not saying he doesn't care about his players at Arky, I was just stating that the letter situation doesn't help your argument what so ever.
Actually, my friends hold me accountable for my shortcomings. If I did something criminal like Vick, I am not sure we would still be friends. Same for them if the roles were reversed.
The good thing about my friends, they don't pull shite like that. They aren't felons.
I do not like the way Petrino handled the situation, he would probably do something different if he could. But I've been hot-boxed before and had to make decisions (professionally) that upon reflection later, I would do differently. That is why I don't worry about Petrino's note to the players.
It is funny, so many say BP should have been more loyal but that situation is representative of today's job market. Why would anyone owe loyalty to a company (in this case the Falcons) when you know they have a history of canning employees when it suits them (Reeves is a good example here). That thought process is incredibly naive and actually hypocritical. Specially when sports reporters/commentators start chiming in.
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