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Arkansas fans, let's come clean. Air this out once & 4 all..

Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:26 pm
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:26 pm
I definatly do not mean to cause enemies with you guys/gals. I like your athletic programs.

When you set your expectations for your football program year after year you need to remember that status quo conference season for Ark is going to be about what you saw this year at 2-6 and it's what you'll see in 09. I think over a 20 year period you would have more 2-6's than anything else. A few 1-7's, a few 3-5's, a few 4-4's and a very few better than 4-4. You need to get an understanding of your conference competition and their recruiting base, how many guys within 50, 100, 200 miles grow up wanting to play for those programs or who move in there and end up there b/c they want to stay close to family or girlfriend etc ,who ultimately get drafted compared to Ark, compare fan following size, stadium size, there are alot of indicators you can point to to help tell you where you are. Most around the nation would compare Arkansas in football to kentucky. They both have about equal recruit base, and Kentucky has about 20 more million in it's annual budget. Kentucky does share with Louisville in recruiting. Another program to compare to outside of the SEC is Purdue. Not alot of tradition in conference, decent recruiting base, and in the lower 1/3rd of the conference in terms of potential. Purdue has 33 active NFLers after this draft and free agent signing. Arkansas has 25. so by that logic you would think if Bear bryant was coaching both programs Purdue would probabaly win 6 or 7 out of 10 matchups.

I'm tired of hearing this "he had dmac, felix, and Hillis, and that's all he could do" statement.

Most of you are football novices so let me break this down. It takes more than a backfield, some of whom where injured at various times of their careers, to win a national championship in the SEC. YOu also need a defense and when you had all those Little Rock defensive linemen, anchored by #1 round draft pick Jamaal Anderson in 06, it gave you a chance to overacheive. In 06 you would of been at or near the top of the SEC in rushing regardless of if Dmac and Felix were ever born b/c Nutt always was up there. Dmac was a safety in highschool and punt returner. He was somewhat of an emergency tailback. Felix wanted to play for Bob Stoops but they wouldn't recruit him. So, you could say Nutt had something to do with developing them into first round backs. Arkansas' biggest problem is there is not enough defensive size and speed in the immediate recruiting base to compete consistantly with SEC teams like their is at LSU, Bama, Auburn, MS, even MSU puts a DL or 2 in the NFL each year. How many players in the NFL right now grew up playing highschool defense in Arkansas? Harrison, Dacus? and that's about all I think and they were 08 draftees. Prior to that I think there were years where there were none. Anderson was a 200lbs wide out that they bulked up to 270.

So, that is why you should be happy with 6-6 and just a bowl game.

This post was edited on 6/22/09 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25283 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:28 pm to
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Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53843 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:32 pm to
They are a lot like Miss St. in my opinion. Nice little program that knocks off one of the big guys every now and then. Nice little fan base, cozy little stadium, pretty good people, but shouldn't expect to ever win the big one.
This post was edited on 6/22/09 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:41 pm to
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wildrebeltime
Posted by DeuceisLoose
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2008
2455 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:42 pm to
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Nice little fan base, cozy little stadium, pretty good people,


Not sure how this is like State. State fans are a bunch of turds with a pasture for a stadium with some bleachers around it.
Posted by Butt Guster
The ANTI-GRIND
Member since Jun 2009
1763 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:33 pm to
Why don't you come clean.

Are you:

1) Teresa Pruitt
2) a member of the MSM
3) Danny Nutt
or
4) Diane Nutt?

Your whole attitude about why Arkansas cannot succeed is a loser mentality. Good thing you are an Ole Miss fan.

Posted by DeuceisLoose
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2008
2455 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:35 pm to
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Good thing you are an Ole Miss fan.


What an insult to the rest of us, SLC. What did we ever do to you?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:36 pm to
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What an insult to the rest of us, SLC. What did we ever do to you?


Don't look at me...
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:40 pm to
I'm sorry guys. No offense intended. Don't be fooled by that guy, he doesn't like Ole Miss. His only concern is Hootie.

BTW, if I am fortunate I will not make it to Oxford for the football game this year. Hopefully I will be in LA that weekend.

(Hope, nothing definite yet).
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:41 pm to
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I'm sorry guys. No offense intended.


None taken. I was laughing at the question asking what Ole Miss ever did to Arky. I then remembered the only threads I have started in the last month have been flames towards the Hogs.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25283 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:44 pm to
Arkansas fans expect 10X more out of their team than the rest of the world does.

Combine that and Nutt's off-field activities and The Springdale Bitches, and it's easy to see why the marriage didn't work out.

Still, he took Arkansas to ATL twice in 10 years, which is a pretty decent accomplishment.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Arkansas fans expect 10X more out of their team than the rest of the world does.

Combine that and Nutt's off-field activities and The Springdale Bitches, and it's easy to see why the marriage didn't work out.

Still, he took Arkansas to ATL twice in 10 years, which is a pretty decent accomplishment.


I don't know how many times I've told you and you refuse to believe me.

Hootie was not fired for wins and losses.

He was fired for off the field actions and even more simply, everyone was tired of his shite.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25283 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Nutt's off-field activities and The Springdale Bitches, and it's easy to see why the marriage didn't work out.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Nutt's off-field activities and The Springdale Bitches, and it's easy to see why the marriage didn't work out.


More than the Springdale kids although that alone is worthy of termination.

Posted by moleyrussellswarthog
Member since Sep 2008
201 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 9:56 pm to
"once and for all"

so this is your very last thread on the topic?
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 10:05 pm to
He compares our program to Prudue or Kentucky

We have won a National Championship in football and have had some of the best football traditions in the south. We may not be upper crust SEC but we sure are not middle of the road nor lower tier.

Your posts make no sense and are complete and utter bullshite. I like other hog fans agree you are connected to the Ole Hootie network somewhere?
Posted by DeuceisLoose
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2008
2455 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 10:07 pm to
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We may not be upper crust SEC but we sure are not middle of the road nor lower tier.


I'm pretty sure these are the three classifications.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 10:12 pm to
Why the frick do you care so much what Arkansas fans think about Nutt?

Why is this your personal crusade?

There are only 3 options on your identity, wildrebeltime.

1) You have to be Theresa Prewitt. If so, you are a deranged, neurotic, pathetic disgusting lesbian who got disowned by her family and sought comfort in the arms of the equally dysfunctional Nutt posse.

2) If not, you're a totally dysfunctional male homosexual with a huge unrequieted crush on Houston Nutt.

3) If you're not either of those, you're someone who lives his life via the internet and gets some kind of satisfaction from antagonizing Arkansas fans, so much so that you dedicate several hours of each day trying your best to do that.

Either option, and at least one is true, means you're a complete and total loser and you should seriously just go swallow a bottle of aspirin.

This motherfricker needs to be banned.

Posted by Adiossuck
South Carolina Fan
Member since Jan 2007
3768 posts
Posted on 6/22/09 at 10:14 pm to

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I'm pretty sure these are the three classifications.


I was thinking the same thing
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