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re: Anyone else feel like this about Saban?

Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:39 am to
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:39 am to
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Bama fans admit anything that's not sunshine pumping is asking too much...He's a damn good coach, but his skills are falling off slowly.



Good Lord. Urban Meyer is now tGOAT, but how did he allow his team to lose at home to a team that ended the season 7-6? VT also only had two players selected in the NFL draft with one in the sixth and one in the seventh, so it's not like that was a talented VT team.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:58 am to
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Good Lord. Urban Meyer is now tGOAT, but how did he allow his team to lose at home to a team that ended the season 7-6? VT also only had two players selected in the NFL draft with one in the sixth and one in the seventh, so it's not like that was a talented VT team.


My post was not suppose to be a comparison of Saban vs Meyers, it was intended to show the evolution in coaching since Saban became a HC. Prior to him, coaches were graded on their Xs and Os, and let recruiting take care of itself. He changed that when he went to LSU, where he was able to keep the great LA players in state. Meyers was know as a Great Offensive mind (Utah), who at FL did not have to worry about recruiting. At OSU he has to do both, which is the next phase of the coaching evolution.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:10 am to
Saban has also done both. If you follow Alabama recruiting at all, you will notice that there isn't enough talent in-state to supply both programs. Saban had to recruit to a place that wasn't exactly a desirable location for recruits when he first started here.

Saban also had to coach his system into our players. Not every five star comes in knowing how to play, and some never do. I agree that Saban's defenses have been a little less intimidating due to the lack of substitution with the HUNH, but I haven't seen one coach that has consistently defended both HUNH spread and pro-style offenses.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:16 am to
Saban > Bear
Posted by John Gotti
Vestavia HIlls, AL
Member since Jul 2013
3370 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:50 am to


Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:13 am to
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Since 11 random guys and plays drawn in dirt aren't required skills I guess Saban does ok.


Its called hyperbole. My point is that Saban is not a playcalling "guru." His strength isn't grabbing a clipboard and drawing up a play like Malzahn would do. He's not going to outcoach someone purely on strategy. Doesn't mean he sucks or even average at it but he delegates that stuff for a reason.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:16 am
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:18 am to
Coach Saban knows how to have fun. His new ride...

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Alphonse Taylor ?@SHANKK50 19h19 hours ago
I just want yall to understand how Saban kilt the game today..... Smh boy boy boy





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Khi @MekhiBrownFFF
When I saw Saban's new whip, I thought he was James Bond or some B lol


Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:47 am to
That's a pretty badass car
Posted by nb200016
Atlanta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
1282 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:41 pm to
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Its called hyperbole. My point is that Saban is not a playcalling "guru." His strength isn't grabbing a clipboard and drawing up a play like Malzahn would do. He's not going to outcoach someone purely on strategy. Doesn't mean he sucks or even average at it but he delegates that stuff for a reason.


Well seeing as Saban is a defensive minded coach and Meyer/Malzahn are offensive I fail to see why we're comparing who can "draw up a play" better on a clipboard.

Saban's blitz packages are among the best and the game is catering more to offenses than defenses these days. He just happens to be of the philosophy that is currently behind in the trend IMO.

Nobody is a better recruiter and nobody has sustained success as well as him though. Malzahn and Meyer both inherited programs that were either prepped with plenty of talent, or preset for their system. Saban gained a dumpster fire and turned it into a consistent program that has had its hand in the championship one way or another just about every single year since 2008.

Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10322 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 4:51 pm to
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Winners love winners. Saban hates average. Makes sense for him to be a fan of by far the greatest professional baseball organization of all time.


People with a competitive advantage love other people with a competitive advantage. Saban hates a level playing field. Makes sense for him to be a fan of the baseball organization with the most astronomical payrolls of all time.

FIFY
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 4:56 pm to
With a ride like that, no doubt Saban's having a fricking blast.
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 5:21 pm to
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He's the winningest coach in the SEC by %. Top 5 in the country. Has no clue what he is doing on gameday. Makes sense


Nobody in this thread said this. Nice troll.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 5:24 pm to
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People with a competitive advantage love other people with a competitive advantage
Where the frick did that brain fart of an idea come from?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10322 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 5:46 pm to
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Where the frick did that brain fart of an idea come from?


From watching Saban leave the parity of the NFL for all of the competitive advantages at The University of Alabama?
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 5:58 pm
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