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re: Alabama football vs Kentucky basketball

Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:51 pm to
Damn, you're a speedy mofo
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Well Historically the SEC as a whole is a lot better in football than in Basketball, so this is meaningless.


If anything that gives Bama an advantage. Kids want to come play in the SEC because the SEC is the nation's best football conference. And they often want to come play for Bama since bama is the top program in the SEC.

While Kentucky can certainly recruit off of their own basketball tradition, no kids are coming to play ball at UK in order to play in the SEC.

If anything, being in the SEC is a detriment to Kentucky. While there is very little difference in Kentucky, UNC, and Duke, I'm sure there are a ton of kids that choose UNC and/or Duke over Kentucky because they'd rather play in the ACC where basketball is taken more seriously.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Kentucky basketball has been ranked in the AP Top 25 during 841 total weeks (74.9% of all releases).
Alabama football has been ranked in the AP Top 25 during 743 total weeks (67.4% of all releases).

Kentucky basketball has been ranked in the AP Top 10 during 661 total weeks (58.9% of all releases).
Alabama football has been ranked in the AP Top 10 during 502 total weeks (46.6% of all releases).

Kentucky basketball has been ranked AP #1 during 122 total weeks (10.9% of all releases).
Alabama football has been ranked AP #1 during 74 total weeks (6.7% of all releases)

Advantage Kentucky each time.

Because basketball season is longer?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Do national Championships next.

after you do national championships that weren't determined by a vote
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:52 pm to
Alabama Football

National Rank
AP National Titles (10) - #1
Bowl Games Played (69) - #1
Bowl Games Won (36) - #1
Consensus All Americans (60) - #6
Total Weeks in AP Poll (743) - #5
All-Time Wins (864) - #6

We are #5 and #6 in those last 3 because of the following

Games Played Pre-1900
Michigan - 122
Ohio State - 84
Nebraksa - 70
Notre Dame - 50
Texas - 45
Alabama - 24
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Because basketball season is longer?


because that affects percentages how?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Well Historically the SEC as a whole is a lot better in football than in Basketball, so this is meaningless.

You're right, historically we don't just play the SEC and four cupcakes. We schedule one of the best OOC slates in basketball and dominate it too. Kansas is the second best basketball program and our record against them is 22-7. Can y'all say that about Notre Dame or Michigan?
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:54 pm to
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I give the nod to Bama. After watching their delirious fans sprint across the field at autograph (or whatever) day, they are the winner. Any program that can create that level of wackitude is #1.


Ever been to the SEC Tournament?

Let's just say, UK fans are the bammers of the basketball world.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Look at what percentage of all SEC Championships Kentucky can claim in basketball and then compare it to the percentage of all SEC Football Championships bama can claim.


Well then Florida State is the greatest of all, look at their % of ACC Football Titles.

I'm not arguing either way here, both have great, historical programs, but you can't compare SEC Basketball and SEC Football. Come on BHM.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:54 pm to
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We are #5 and #6 in those last 3 because of the following

Games Played Pre-1900
Michigan - 122
Ohio State - 84
Nebraksa - 70
Notre Dame - 50
Texas - 45
Alabama - 24

so you'll just pencil in wins because....reasons....
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
2027 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:55 pm to
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after you do national championships that weren't determined by a vote

I guess you won't be claiming those football titles anymore. Better paint over 1958 2003 2007 in Death Valley.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17113 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:55 pm to
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Because basketball season is longer?
Which makes it more impressive that we've been ranked that long...... thanks for playing.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:55 pm to
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I guess you won't be claiming those football titles anymore.

i'm not trying to say lsu football is better than uk basketball either
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:56 pm to
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as has been stated, it is much harder to win a title in basketball than it is in football. the tournament format of basketball is not a good way to determine a national champion. it's just more entertaining. Kentucky, however, has 46 conference titles. Everyone else in the conference combined has 49.

That is dominating the SEC, not the nation.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Let's just say, UK fans are the bammers of the basketball world.

they're actually worse
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Because basketball season is longer?


That's why there are percentages listed, genius.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:57 pm to
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That is dominating the SEC, not the nation.

then why can't alabama dominate it's own conference in football like uk has in basketball?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17113 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:57 pm to
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m not arguing either way here, both have great, historical programs, but you can't compare SEC Basketball and SEC Football.
And yet again, when you look at how we fare outside of the SEC the results are the same dominating numbers that we produce against y'all. We don't go around worrying about SEC titles because they don't mean shite next to a national championship.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:57 pm to
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Can y'all say that about Notre Dame or Michigan?


All-Time Wins Teams and Record vs Alabama

1. Michigan (Tied 2-2)
2. Notre Dame (ND 5-2)
3. Texas (Texas 7-1-1)
4. Nebraska (Bama 3-2)
5. Ohio State (Bama 3-1)
7. Oklahoma (OU 1-3-1)
8. Penn State (Bama 10-5)
9. Tennessee (Bama 52-38-7)
10. USC (Bama 5-2)
11. Georgia (Bama 38-25-4)
12. LSU (Bama 50-25-5)
13. Auburn (Bama 44-35-1)
14. West Virginia (Bama 1-0)
15. Virginia Tech (Bama 12-1)

32% of Alabama's all-time games are against the Top 15 in all-time wins in the sport.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 3:01 pm
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