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re: Alabama dominated LSU Nov. 5th...

Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by Mr. Shake
The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
Member since Dec 2009
817 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:32 pm to
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But it was a legitimate call, whereas the obvious late hit on Lee wasn't called at all. I think if both teams play their A-games in New Orleans, the score will be just as close as November 5th when, IMO both teams played about a B-.


Yes - by unneccessary I didn't mean it was a bad call. I was just saying it was a stupid penalty on Bama's part. Also, the penalty on #7 negated a big punt return for LSU. Both teams really should/could have played better.
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:34 pm to
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The biggest play was kicking the FG in OT but I wouldn't say LSU had more big plays.
LSU's interception at the 1 which basically saved the game.

Brad Wing's 73 yard punt from his own redzone when Alabama would have had great field position in the 4th quarter.

The blocked field goal possibly saved 3 points.

The sacks in overtime that had Alabama going backwards.

Ford's run in overtime and the eventual game-winning kick.


They had a lot of big plays.
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:35 pm to
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In OT,

We rushed the ball towards the goal line, set our kicker up in the middle of the field, and kicked the winning field goal in OT after making your team go arse backwards, NO? We stepped on the line or it would have been 6 right there, NO?


Nice try at a deflection but we were talking about LSU in OT not Alabama NO?

Ford rushes for 3.
Ford rushes for 15.

After Ford stepped out at the 7, Jefferson went left on the next play and got stuffed. The next play they went to the middle to the Bama 6. Why not go to the middle first and just kick the FG? They're already in chip shot range. Is 1 yard going to make a difference?

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GAME OVER, just maybe you get a do-over Jan 9th


I'm hoping so.

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YOU ARE AN IDIOT WITH A SELECTIVE MEMORY.


I just gave you a recap of all the LSU plays in OT. Some selection there moron.

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HAVE SOME RANCH ON YOUR CORNDOG


Don't eat corndogs...corndog.
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:38 pm to
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You must have forgotten the game. Brad Wing was putting the ball in places that it shouldn't have even been in the first place.

Brad Wing had a 73 yard punt at a crucial point in the game from really deep in his own territory.

When it came down to it, LSU's players stepped up and made big plays when it counted most... and that's why they won.


That's what I said. LSU made the right plays at the right time. The biggest was the sack of AJ in OT.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:40 pm to
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Now, you don't have to agree that Bama outplayed LSU. You can accuse them of being a part of the Massive Bama Conspiracy. But there's nothing crazy or delusional or dumb about saying we outplayed you, we should've won. Sorry, but it's ok for us to say that.


Home field advantage and you got beat. You obviously shouldn't have won. I don't care how pretty STATS look on paper -- but LSUs defense stood tall when Alabama crossed the 50. LSU out played Alabama and that is why they won. It's not because a punt "hit the wires" (lmfao) or because Alabamas kicker can't hit 3 48+ yard FGs.

LSU played an ugly game on the road and fought for a victory. LSU out rushed Alabama.. and in a defensive struggle, that is the KEY stat.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:41 pm to
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That's what I said. LSU made the right plays at the right time. The biggest was the sack of AJ in OT.



The motto of this LSU team all season long. They can turn it in in an instant.. forgive me, but I'm not all that impressed at a team driving the ball to midfield and then getting stopped outside of FG range. That's just good defense.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 4:42 pm
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:45 pm to
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here's nothing crazy or delusional or dumb about saying we outplayed you

For 3 straight quarters, absolutely everything went Alabama's way - every fumble, every interception, every call (but one), yet Alabama could only muster ONE legit scoring opportunity without help. The other 4 required an interception (2), or a crucial personal foul call (2) without which Alabama never even attempts but ONE field goal the ENTIRE game. Then, at the very end of the third, LSU gets its first interception and the wheels begin fall off the Saban express. IN ITS LAST THREE POSSESSIONS, ALABAMA HAD A TOTAL OF TWO - !TWO! - PLAYS FOR POSITIVE YARDS. In retrospect, the outcome was never in doubt after the beginning of Q4, exactly like every other LSU game this year.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26286 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:47 pm to
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forgive me, but I'm not all that impressed at a team driving the ball to midfield and then getting stopped outside of FG range.



Agreed. I don't see anything there (moving the ball to midfield or barely past midfield) that screams "outplayed." Not to mention, they obviously didn't drive too much between the 20's relative to LSU, because the total offensive yardage betweeen the teams wasn't that far off, 290-240.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Mr. Shake
The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
Member since Dec 2009
817 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:48 pm to
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In retrospect, the outcome was never in doubt after the beginning of Q4, exactly like every other LSU game this year.


Winer of the 2011 World's Wrongest Man Competition
Posted by ray terese
USA
Member since May 2009
498 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:48 pm to
LOL, this is fun.Like teaching firat grade.You enter game with thoughts of scoring more points then other team.aaaaaia beleive we did just that.So second place team in division not of west or east winner can play for championship over conference champ.Why do we play regular season? Just asking no harm meant.
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:51 pm to
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The motto of this LSU team all season long. They can turn it in in an instant.. forgive me, but I'm not all that impressed at a team driving the ball to midfield and then getting stopped outside of FG range. That's just good defense.


Wasn't just to the 50. LSU 27,33,31,17,29,28.

Great defense is stopping the other team from scoring TD's on their own 2 and 6 yard line and never letting the other team cross the 50 but 3 times.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26286 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:53 pm to
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LSU 27,33,31,17,29,28.



Wait, so you are telling me that the closest Alabama got to the LSU goal line was the 17 ??? Yet in the same breath quitly asserting that Alabama outplayed LSU ??



Posted by Mr. Shake
The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
Member since Dec 2009
817 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:55 pm to
Ok I'll take a stab.

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LOL, this is fun.Like teaching firat grade.


No comment.

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You enter game with thoughts of scoring more points then other team.aaaaaia beleive we did just that.


Yes (you're talking about LSU, right?)

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So second place team in division not of west or east winner can play for championship over conference champ.


It's a weird year, Ray.

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Why do we play regular season? Just asking no harm meant.


Until we get a playoff, things like this will happen from time to time. Most years, the BCS just works itself out naturally. And if OU beats OSU, most people will assume it worked again. If OSU wins and gets left out, then their will be some serious debate on whether the BCS is working like it is supposed to.
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:57 pm to
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That's what I said. LSU made the right plays at the right time. The biggest was the sack of AJ in OT.
What do you think making "big plays" is?

It's making the right plays at the right time. Not just right plays... but clutch plays.

That punt by Wing possibly saved the game. That interception on Alabama's 1 yard line definitely saved the game. That sack and tackles for losses in OT were clutch. And that run by Ford and kick won the game.


During crunch-time, LSU stepped up and made the big-time plays that won the game for them. Alabama fizzled.

Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:58 pm to
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For 3 straight quarters, absolutely everything went Alabama's way - every fumble, every interception, every call (but one), yet Alabama could only muster ONE legit scoring opportunity without help. The other 4 required an interception (2), or a crucial personal foul call (2) without which Alabama never even attempts but ONE field goal the ENTIRE game. Then, at the very end of the third, LSU gets its first interception and the wheels begin fall off the Saban express. IN ITS LAST THREE POSSESSIONS, ALABAMA HAD A TOTAL OF TWO - !TWO! - PLAYS FOR POSITIVE YARDS. In retrospect, the outcome was never in doubt after the beginning of Q4, exactly like every other LSU game this year.



LSU kicked a FG in the 2nd quarter. That was after they drove the ball to the Bama 2 also. So Bama didn't have everything going for them in the first 3 quarters.

LSU - 2 INTs. 1 FG.
Bama - 2 INTs. 1 FG.

In the 4th quarter Bama drove deep into LSU territory only to have the Maze pass picked off so the wheels weren't falling off.

If the game was never in doubt why was 6-6 at the end of regulation?

You must have been watching a different game than I was.
Posted by pawprints
La
Member since Mar 2008
565 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:59 pm to
The play on the field was about even . The play on the sideline was all LES MILES out coached Saban again.
Posted by hawaiiantiger
KANEOHE, HI
Member since Jan 2010
350 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 5:01 pm to
did you know that the 46 yd fg was the longest fg the entire season? they dont know how close they came from only scoring just 3 points
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 5:02 pm to
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What do you think making "big plays" is?


You said more. I said at the right time.

Bama clearly had more big plays from the line of scrimmage but the 73 yard Wing punt possibly kept Bama from FG range. The INT at the LSU 1 foot line was crucial and the sack on AJ in OT was too.

LSU made them at the right crucial times.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36131 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 5:02 pm to
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a D-1 kicker should make at least 1 out of 4.


your kicker made 2 of teh 5 that weren't blocked

which is apparently better than his average (something like 1 for 7 from 40+ for the year I've read on this board)
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12954 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 5:03 pm to
Bama players said they are the better team. Incredible locker room material for LSU to get ready to deliver their to Bama.

Better in that they were gassed and out of breath for the last 8 minutes of the game? Hope they get in shape for January--they'll need it.


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