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re: Alabama dominated LSU Nov. 5th...
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:49 pm to Carlton Banks
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:49 pm to Carlton Banks
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One reason for Alabama's stats is that Brad Wing was pinning them deep like he always does. You can't count Bama's offense but not mention WHY they were in the positions they were in in the first place.
Maybe. LSU average starting drives on their side of the field. 19.5
Alabama 23
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Alabama's offense was better than LSU's, but LSU's special teams was FAR superior. I'm not even talking about the field goals... but Brad Wing was a huge part of the game as far as field position.
If you're not talking about FGs then what are you talking about? See above. No doubt Wing is a better punter but Bama's offense gave them opportunities to make LSU start about 4 yards deeper in their own territory.
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LSU's defense also played better than Alabama's in their own territory. They stopped Alabama on the side of the field that mattered. Any time Bama crossed that 50 yard line, LSU's defense clamped down hard. Alabama's bent more.
LSU had one long offensive drive. Alabama had one long offensive drive. Both got FGs from INTs.
You can say LSU having the ball on Bama's 2 and 6 yard line meant Bama's D bent more but only one of those drives came from the LSU offense. The other penetration came from a pick and starting at the 25 in OT.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:56 pm
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:50 pm to bmy
It's not just us delusional Bammers who think we outplayed you.
-CFN/Scout LINK
And I believe right after the game Herbstreit said "Alabama outplayed LSU all game."
Now, you don't have to agree that Bama outplayed LSU. You can accuse them of being a part of the Massive Bama Conspiracy. But there's nothing crazy or delusional or dumb about saying we outplayed you, we should've won. Sorry, but it's ok for us to say that.
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Alabama outplayed LSU in several ways and seemed to have control, but it never got the field position it needed and it didn’t take advantage of opportunities. Going forward, coming up with blowouts is a must to show everyone it deserves the No. 2 spot and a rematch.
-CFN/Scout LINK
And I believe right after the game Herbstreit said "Alabama outplayed LSU all game."
Now, you don't have to agree that Bama outplayed LSU. You can accuse them of being a part of the Massive Bama Conspiracy. But there's nothing crazy or delusional or dumb about saying we outplayed you, we should've won. Sorry, but it's ok for us to say that.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:54 pm to JPLSU1981
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I've heard a few people claim that Alabama dominated LSU on Nov. 5th
Those people are clueless.
Both teams left points on the field. It was pretty even in two phases (offense, defense) and not even close in the third phase (special teams).
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:55 pm to BoudreauxinGA
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Uhhhhh, we weren't forced to kick a field goal. That's your selective memory. We kicked it on third down from point blank ranch BECAUSE we knew that's all we needed to beat that arse on your home turf, but RTR and make up whatever shite you want if it makes you feel better
Well hell if that's all you knew you needed, why try 4 rushes to score a TD in OT? LSU had it 1st and goal at the Bama 7. Why not just go ahead and kick it instead of risking a fumble with 2 more carries?
I don't need to make up shite. I actually watched the game. Maybe you were drinking bong water at the time.
Point blank ranch? Go well with wings?
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:55 pm to JPLSU1981
Let's take a look at the bottom line. LSU made a pile of mistakes; Both of Lee's interceptions which were totally atypical of his play this season; Randle dropping a sure TD pass that he normally snags; Shepard inexplicably falling down when all he has to do is waltz into the endzone for a score; Ford losing track of his feet and stepping out of bounds on the way to an easy touchdown; three blown pass coverages for big 'Bama plays; again atypical of this defense; and I'm sure there were others. Now 'Bama's mistakes; trying three field goals that were out of range in a field position type of game; the flea-flicker pass call when they were already in FG range in a tight game. Seems to me LSU made more atypical type of mistakes than 'Bama, yet they still won the game. Saban is well aware that he can't count on the Tiger's making the same sort of mistakes again just as Miles can be fairly certain the long-range FG tries and ill-advised flea flicker can't be counted on a second time. Neither team dominated the other by any stretch but one team made more big plays and that team won the game.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:56 pm to genro
You proved my point.
People have indeed claimed what I stated (even though I was told on Page1 that no one has said this).
I believe I have proven those claims false, or at the very least that those claims are grossly exaggerated given the facts of the game.
It was a toss-up game, either team could have won, and LSU made the key plays (especially in special teams) on Nov. 5th which allowed LSU to secure the victory. But for someone to say one team "dominated" or "outplayed" the other is hogwash IMO.
People have indeed claimed what I stated (even though I was told on Page1 that no one has said this).
I believe I have proven those claims false, or at the very least that those claims are grossly exaggerated given the facts of the game.
It was a toss-up game, either team could have won, and LSU made the key plays (especially in special teams) on Nov. 5th which allowed LSU to secure the victory. But for someone to say one team "dominated" or "outplayed" the other is hogwash IMO.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:56 pm to ChemicalXen
quote:FIFY
Actually Herbie and most of his blow buddies on ESPN said this.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:57 pm to genro
WE WON.CAN YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FREAKING SKULLS?Am I lying? 9-6. STATS, STATS, STATS are for losers. no matter who won the stat war.Maybe Alabama can win the stat national championship.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:00 pm to JPLSU1981
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You proved my point. People have indeed claimed what I stated (even though I was told on Page1 that no one has said this). I believe I have proven those claims false, or at the very least that those claims are grossly exaggerated given the facts of the game. It was a toss-up game, either team could have won, and LSU made the key plays on Nov. 5th which allowed LSU to secure the victory. But for someone to say one team "dominated" or "outplayed" the other is hogwash IMO.
OUTPLAYED and DOMINATED are two different words, with two different meanings. Still, no one, not even us delusional Bammers, has said we dominated you. Just like you didn't dominate us.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:01 pm to RANDY44
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Let's take a look at the bottom line. LSU made a pile of mistakes; Both of Lee's interceptions which were totally atypical of his play this season; Randle dropping a sure TD pass that he normally snags; Shepard inexplicably falling down when all he has to do is waltz into the endzone for a score; Ford losing track of his feet and stepping out of bounds on the way to an easy touchdown; three blown pass coverages for big 'Bama plays; again atypical of this defense; and I'm sure there were others. Now 'Bama's mistakes; trying three field goals that were out of range in a field position type of game; the flea-flicker pass call when they were already in FG range in a tight game. Seems to me LSU made more atypical type of mistakes than 'Bama, yet they still won the game. Saban is well aware that he can't count on the Tiger's making the same sort of mistakes again just as Miles can be fairly certain the long-range FG tries and ill-advised flea flicker can't be counted on a second time. Neither team dominated the other by any stretch but one team made more big plays and that team won the game.
Good points. I would also add the block in the back by Josh Chapman on the 2nd interception. It was a totally unneccessary penalty that moved the ball from inside the 5, back out to the 35 yard line. That play could've changed the outcome as well.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:04 pm to Mr. Shake
But it happened,if my aunt had a set of nuts she would be my uncle. DAMM WE WON.ONE HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW LIKE Oklohoma vs.Nebraska, You and I know who won ,same with LSU vs.GUMPS.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:05 pm to genro
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OUTPLAYED and DOMINATED are two different words, with two different meanings. Still, no one, not even us delusional Bammers, has said we dominated you. Just like you didn't dominate us.
Fair enough. That said, I have never once claimed LSU dominated Alabama.
And you are right in the difference between outplayed and dominated. If so, I think outplayed is pretty subjective, because I think it's clear the teams were pretty even on Offense and Defense, but I do believe LSU outplayed Alabama on special teams.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:06 pm to arty
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Well hell if that's all you knew you needed, why try 4 rushes to score a TD in OT? LSU had it 1st and goal at the Bama 7. Why not just go ahead and kick it instead of risking a fumble with 2 more carries?
I don't need to make up shite. I actually watched the game. Maybe you were drinking bong water at the time.
Point blank ranch? Go well with wings?
In OT,
We rushed the ball towards the goal line, set our kicker up in the middle of the field, and kicked the winning field goal in OT after making your team go arse backwards, NO? We stepped on the line or it would have been 6 right there, NO?
GAME OVER, just maybe you get a do-over Jan 9th
YOU ARE AN IDIOT WITH A SELECTIVE MEMORY.
HAVE SOME RANCH ON YOUR CORNDOG
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:07 pm to ray terese
Once again, no one is saying Alabama won. Alabama lost. Geez.
Chill out LSU. Saying we feel like we outplayed you and should've won is NOT saying we dominated and won. My girlfriend does that too sometimes and starts bitching about me saying things I didn't say.
Chill out LSU. Saying we feel like we outplayed you and should've won is NOT saying we dominated and won. My girlfriend does that too sometimes and starts bitching about me saying things I didn't say.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:07 pm to Mr. Shake
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Good points. I would also add the block in the back by Josh Chapman on the 2nd interception. It was a totally unneccessary penalty that moved the ball from inside the 5, back out to the 35 yard line. That play could've changed the outcome as well.
But it was a legitimate call, whereas the obvious late hit on Lee wasn't called at all. I think if both teams play their A-games in New Orleans, the score will be just as close as November 5th when, IMO both teams played about a B-.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:08 pm to genro
quote:Heard on Finebaum today. Just sayin'
Who's said we dominated?
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:18 pm to JPLSU1981
Score says different..
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:21 pm to RANDY44
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Neither team dominated the other by any stretch but one team made more big plays and that team won the game.
Bama had 12 plays from scrimmage 10 yards or more.
22,18,20,19,10,12,39,19,11,18,24,17
LSU had 5.
13,15,34,13,14,18
LSU had 2 INTs. One was returned for 33 yards.
Bama had 2 INTs. One returned for 15 yard but was called back.
Both returned INTs resulted in the team having the ball deep in the opposing team's territory. Both INTs resulted in FGs.
LSU had 1 blocked FG but didn't result in any points.
Bama none.
The biggest play was kicking the FG in OT but I wouldn't say LSU had more big plays. They just made the right play at the right time.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:28 pm to arty
quote:You must have forgotten the game. Brad Wing was putting the ball in places that it shouldn't have even been in the first place.
Maybe. LSU average starting drives on their side of the field. 19.5 Alabama 23
Brad Wing had a 73 yard punt at a crucial point in the game from really deep in his own territory.
When it came down to it, LSU's players stepped up and made big plays when it counted most... and that's why they won.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:29 pm to ray terese
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But it happened,if my aunt had a set of nuts she would be my uncle. DAMM WE WON.ONE HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW LIKE Oklohoma vs.Nebraska, You and I know who won ,same with LSU vs.GUMPS.
WHO ARE YOU ARGUING WITH I DIDN'T SAY LSU DIDN'T WIN I WAS JUST POINTING OUT ANOTHER CHANCE BAMA COULDN'T CAPITALIZE ON. CAPSLOCK IS FUN.
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