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Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:06 pm to stat19
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You need a hobby
Well, in my defense, LSU football is my hobby.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:13 pm to JPLSU1981
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Alabama was penalized for more yardage than LSU (73-56), and turned the ball over twice (which equaled LSU's 2 turnovers, and that doesn't even include Alabama's blocked FG). So in regards to the "stats battle," Alabama didn't even win the three most important categories in football: rushing yards, turnovers, and penalties.
Furthermore, Alabama's missed FGs were from 44, 50, 49, 52. I'll be nice and throw out the 44, but is it any surprise Bama missed the other 3?
I think above leads some to believe that Alabama cost itself the ball game. In reality the above is unforced errors. As far as your "3" most important stats, many look at total offense, time of possesion and first downs, as a important stat. Some even like passing yards but those dont fall into LSU's favor so I can see how they are discredited by you. I was one of those on here who has said "BAMA outplayed LSU" (K. Herbstriet also has said it) and I still believe it. Where's your page long list of games and scores, or have you conceded that BAMA is coming and this time LSU wont get to start 2 of their three field goal drives from the BAMA 25.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:17 pm to 4nmylifetime
Here's the truth: It was an extremely tight game. Minute differences ended up deciding it. It could've gone either way.
As far as rematch:
If it's another tight game, and Bama wins, we don't know who's better.
If LSU wins, LSU is better, regardless of how tight the game is.
But if Bama wins convincingly, Bama is better. And that is what LSU fans are afraid of.
As far as rematch:
If it's another tight game, and Bama wins, we don't know who's better.
If LSU wins, LSU is better, regardless of how tight the game is.
But if Bama wins convincingly, Bama is better. And that is what LSU fans are afraid of.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:18 pm to 4nmylifetime
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I was one of those on here who has said "BAMA outplayed LSU"
See. Told yall.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:18 pm to 4nmylifetime
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or have you conceded that BAMA is coming and this time LSU wont get to start 2 of their three field goal drives from the BAMA 25.
LSU won't drop frick up two separate TD passes and step out of bounds on an easy TD run either. You can keep hoping for a fluke victory against a superior team -- cause we've already seen who is better.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:19 pm to genro
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But if Bama wins convincingly, Bama is better. And that is what LSU fans are afraid of.
Even a 10 point win would mean jack shite in your scenario. LSU beat Alabama at home which is >>> Alabama beating LSU on a neutral field. It is what it is though.. and LSU is STILL getting better week after week.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:19 pm to ChemicalXen
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Actually no one has said this.
Total Joe-Pa move. "I didn't see anything."
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:20 pm to ChemicalXen
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Actually no one has said this.
Thats bull b/c I live in the rat hole state called Alabama and I was at a party last week where the Bama faithful was cheering for Arky to beat us. All the delusional Bama fans there said they dominated the game so stop lying. Remember one lie turns into a bigger lie. And Yes I am calling all you gumps lairs.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:20 pm to genro
I have no issues with someone saying "it was a tight game that could have gone either way." No isses at all with that statement.
A few plays here or there, and I fully admit that either team could have come away with the W.
But I have a huge issue with the false statement that "Alabama outplayed LSU" or that "Alabama dominated LSU" or "Alabama beat LSU in every statistic." Those statements are the ones that I am here to shed some light on and prove false. Anyone who makes such a statement is obviously so blanketed by their bias that their opinion deserves to be discredited.
A few plays here or there, and I fully admit that either team could have come away with the W.
But I have a huge issue with the false statement that "Alabama outplayed LSU" or that "Alabama dominated LSU" or "Alabama beat LSU in every statistic." Those statements are the ones that I am here to shed some light on and prove false. Anyone who makes such a statement is obviously so blanketed by their bias that their opinion deserves to be discredited.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:24 pm to JPLSU1981
So LSU's never lost a game and you thought "We should've won that game." Of course we feel we outplayed you. We moved the ball better. The FG's were, yes, quite long. But they weren't all over 50 yards, and a D-1 kicker should make at least 1 out of 4.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:25 pm to JPLSU1981
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LSU reached Alabama's 2 yard line in one drive, Alabama's 13 yard line in another drive, and Alabama's 8 yard line in yet another drive.
And came away with field goals.
Bama crossed the 50 5 times. LSU 3.
Bama had longer drives.
Bama had more total yardage.
Bama had more first downs.
Bama had more 3rd down conversions.
Bama won the time of possession.
Bama had one long drive for a FG.
LSU had one long drive for a FG.
Both teams had 2 INTs.
Both teams converted 3 points out of one INT.
Bama couldn't convert a FG attempt in OT. LSU did. End of game. End of story.
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Furthermore, Alabama's missed FGs were from 44, 50, 49, 52. I'll be nice and throw out the 44, but is it any surprise Bama missed the other 3? Those weren't exactly chip shots.
Foster only comes in on FG attempts over 40 yards.
He was 77.8 percent last year. Hit from 41, 44, 49, and 45.
He was 22.2 percent this year. Part of that was trying the 50, 49 and 52 yarders.
Had Saban not tried to throw in OT I don't have any doubt either Foster or Shelley would have caused another OT, that is if LSU would have been forced to kick a FG like they were.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:25 pm to genro
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So LSU's never lost a game and you thought "We should've won that game." Of course we feel we outplayed you. We moved the ball better. The FG's were, yes, quite long. But they weren't all over 50 yards, and a D-1 kicker should make at least 1 out of 4.
When one is blocked, that lowers your chances. Oh, and LSU out rushed Bama fwiw. Truth stings Alabama HAD to pass to keep up, LSU did not. That's ball game. LSU left about 14 points on the field, which you just can't do vs strong teams like Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:31 pm to bmy
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When one is blocked, that lowers your chances. Oh, and LSU out rushed Bama fwiw. Truth stings Alabama HAD to pass to keep up, LSU did not. That's ball game. LSU left about 14 points on the field, which you just can't do vs strong teams like Alabama.
The blocked kick was after starting kicker had already been benched for missing 2. We don't miss the first 2, backup kicker never comes and kicks right into your line. And, obviously we left points on the field also.
And, pass to catch up? LSU never led until the last play of the game. We passed because you were keyed up on and selling out to stop TR. Same thing UT, AU, and just about everyone else did.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:35 pm to bmy
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Alabama HAD to pass to keep up
Alabama passed because that's what Alabama does. It's called a balanced offense.
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LSU did not.
Well, maybe if you a decent qb you'd pass.
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LSU left about 14 points on the field, which you just can't do vs strong teams like Alabama.
Like when you had 1st and goal from the 2 and got shut down? Yeah I guess you could say you left points on the field. Or you could just say Bama wasn't giving up shite.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:36 pm to arty
One reason for Alabama's stats is that Brad Wing was pinning them deep like he always does. You can't count Bama's offense but not mention WHY they were in the positions they were in in the first place.
Alabama's offense was better than LSU's, but LSU's special teams was FAR superior. I'm not even talking about the field goals... but Brad Wing was a huge part of the game as far as field position.
LSU's defense also played better than Alabama's in their own territory. They stopped Alabama on the side of the field that mattered. Any time Bama crossed that 50 yard line, LSU's defense clamped down hard. Alabama's bent more.
Alabama's offense was better than LSU's, but LSU's special teams was FAR superior. I'm not even talking about the field goals... but Brad Wing was a huge part of the game as far as field position.
LSU's defense also played better than Alabama's in their own territory. They stopped Alabama on the side of the field that mattered. Any time Bama crossed that 50 yard line, LSU's defense clamped down hard. Alabama's bent more.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:37 pm to crimsonsaint
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Like when you had 1st and goal from the 2 and got shut down? Yeah I guess you could say you left points on the field. Or you could just say Bama wasn't giving up shite.
Dropped TD pass, Shepard fell on his arse instead of walking into the endzone, and Ford stepped out of bounds.
You can't have it both ways. I'd say that those missed FGs were forced by LSU, especially the blocked one. Ford stepping out of bounds.. I guess you could say that was forced (mental mistake more than anything). Shepard fell on his arse instead of scoring which obviously wasn't forced. The dropped TD pass to Randle could be called forced too, timing was off slightly.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:46 pm to arty
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Had Saban not tried to throw in OT I don't have any doubt either Foster or Shelley would have caused another OT, that is if LSU would have been forced to kick a FG like they were.
Uhhhhh, we weren't forced to kick a field goal. That's your selective memory. We kicked it on third down from point blank ranch BECAUSE we knew that's all we needed to beat that arse on your home turf, but RTR and make up whatever shite you want if it makes you feel better
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:49 pm to BoudreauxinGA
Never said we dominated,just said we won.
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