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re: Adding the Oklahoma schools could solve one issue...........
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
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WEST
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
EAST
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Kentucky
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
I like this. The real losers would be LSU, Ole Miss, and Miss. State..... their annual opponents would look far different than what they were accustomed to 25 years earlier. Not sure I'd like that set-up if I were them.
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:37 am to Chill98
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If you aren't worried about the "cultural" aspect
We are, very much. Zero chance in hell the SEC is adding BYU or UConn.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:38 am to Chill98
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You get all the TV markets without any of the OU/OSU hassle.
What hassle? Why would we add two inferior teams when we have a chance to make the conference much stronger and much more balanced across the three big sports?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:40 am to UpToPar
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What hassle? Why would we add two inferior teams when we have a chance to make the conference much stronger and much more balanced across the three big sports?
Not to mention a small private school with a tiny, crappy stadium and a small fanbase. So, lets add Vanderbilt minus the whole "elite academically and pretty good at some sports" thing.
Yea, great idea.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would now be on the same recruiting level of aTm in football. I think this is the actual reason aTm fans would not want them added.
Both of those schools recruit heavily in Texas. OU is much more of a draw than OSU, but they're also a bigger recruiting draw than aTm with the SEC next to their name.
Both of those schools recruit heavily in Texas. OU is much more of a draw than OSU, but they're also a bigger recruiting draw than aTm with the SEC next to their name.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:42 am to BHMKyle
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The real losers would be LSU, Ole Miss, and Miss. State..... their annual opponents would look far different than what they were accustomed to 25 years earlier. Not sure I'd like that set-up if I were them.
I love it as an LSU fan. LSU A&M is becoming a heated rivalry and will be for years to come. Arkansas is headed in the right direction and the LSU Arkansas game will continue to be exciting. LSU keeps their historic rivalry with Ole Miss. I think OU would quickly replace Alabama as the school that LSU loves to hate. Losing Auburn would suck, but I would look forward to games with Ok st.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:43 am to Hawgeye
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Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would now be on the same recruiting level of aTm in football. I think this is the actual reason aTm fans would not want them added. Both of those schools recruit heavily in Texas. OU is much more of a draw than OSU, but they're also a bigger recruiting draw than aTm with the SEC next to their name.
Oklahoma State would get to go into Texas and have a trump card of SEC SEC SEC vs the secondary Texas schools (TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech) and the other schools that come into Texas to try and poach the 2nd tier kids (Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, etc).
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:43 am to Hawgeye
OU is already on our level if not above it recruiting wise. It's OU. They recruit nationally now. It certainly wouldn't help us though as we do win head to heads against them now for some Texas kids
This would really help OK State. We would for sure be the school most hurt by this though which is why I don't want it to happen
This would really help OK State. We would for sure be the school most hurt by this though which is why I don't want it to happen
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:44 am to UpToPar
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I think OU would quickly replace Alabama as the school that LSU loves to hate
Agree - quick and automatic replacement.
Oklahoma-LSU as a yearly home and home game? Man, that sounds awesome. And it feels like a fit too for some reason. Maybe I am off base, but when I think of Oklahoma and Oklahoma State traveling to Ole Miss/State/LSU it just feels like a natural game.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:44 am to UpToPar
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Where would they rank in the SEC academically?
Oklahoma is decent. Oklahoma St. has a great agriculture program, but suck other than that.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
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So, lets add Vanderbilt minus the whole "elite academically and pretty good at some sports" thing.
Its about time the west got a Vanderbilt
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:45 am to UpToPar
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I love it as an LSU fan. LSU A&M is becoming a heated rivalry and will be for years to come. Arkansas is headed in the right direction and the LSU Arkansas game will continue to be exciting. LSU keeps their historic rivalry with Ole Miss. I think OU would quickly replace Alabama as the school that LSU loves to hate. Losing Auburn would suck, but I would look forward to games with Ok st.
I agree.
As an Arkansas fan, we would have Missouri, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and aTm all on our schedule and all states that border us. It would certainly add to the excitement of each sports season playing neighboring states schools such as those.
I do enjoy Bama and Auburn games as well and will be sad to see them leave the schedule, but it is what it is. You just hope your school doesn't get shafted on the football schedule and stuck with a Kentucky or Vandy as a cross division rival.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 8:48 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
Or add a Carolina and Virginia school to keep the divisions balanced or don't add teams at all. I think the conference is fine the way it is.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:46 am to Hawgeye
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You just hope your school doesn't get shafted on the football schedule and stuck with a Kentucky or Vandy as a cross division rival.
My hope would be now with the 2 big rivalry games inside the East division that we would scrap permanent cross division games, go to 9 games and just rotate 2 cross-division games each year.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:47 am to Old Sarge
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Biggest issue is they bring no value
quote:Lol seriously?
Texas A&M fan
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:47 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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This would really help OK State. We would for sure be the school most hurt by this though which is why I don't want it to happen
Great for you admitting that. At least you are honest and not like some of your other fans claiming adding them would lose the league money.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:49 am to Hawgeye
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You just hope your school doesn't get shafted on the football schedule and stuck with a Kentucky or Vandy as a cross division rival.
That's the beauty of this. You can do away with cross division rivals. The main reason to keep them before was to preserve TSIO and Auburn/UGA. Now those teams are in the same division. Have 2 cross division games a year and just rotate. No permanent cross division opponent.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:50 am to UpToPar
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That's the beauty of this. You can do away with cross division rivals. The main reason to keep them before was to preserve TSIO and Auburn/UGA. Now those teams are in the same division. Have 2 cross division games a year and just rotate. No permanent cross division opponent.
Yep, eliminates the need for that and splits the divisions by geography.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:50 am to TeLeFaWx
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Or add a Carolina and Virginia school to keep the divisions balanced or don't add teams at all. I think the conference is fine the way it is
The conference as a whole would be better with OU and OSU.
Most ACC teams add one sport. Duke isn't leaving. UNC isn't leaving. FSU isn't leaving.
OU and OSU have reputable history in multiple sports and are very close to being ripe for the picking. They bring Oklahoma City/Norman, more Dallas, and Tulsa televisions to the league.
As I stated earlier...expansion is going to go west IMO, not east this go round.
The question is...do you want OU and OSU or Texas and TCU?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:51 am to UpToPar
I could dig dropping the permanent and implementing the yearly rotation. Would certainly seem fair.
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