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Adding the Oklahoma schools could solve one issue...........
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:31 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:31 am
Pretty clearly solves the East/West problems we always bicker about.
Alabama and Auburn can move east and the West is still a pretty formidable division.
WEST
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
EAST
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Kentucky
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Pretty much splits perfectly on the map too. Makes perfect geographic sense, fixes all the rivalries, allows a division + 2 rotation games in other division 9 game schedule. Oklahoma and Okie Lite have close games with Mizzou and Arkansas, could develop good games with LSU and re-kindle A&M series.
Obviously it won't happen, but it's interesting that it really does make things pretty symmetrical.
Alabama and Auburn can move east and the West is still a pretty formidable division.
WEST
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
EAST
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Kentucky
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Pretty much splits perfectly on the map too. Makes perfect geographic sense, fixes all the rivalries, allows a division + 2 rotation games in other division 9 game schedule. Oklahoma and Okie Lite have close games with Mizzou and Arkansas, could develop good games with LSU and re-kindle A&M series.
Obviously it won't happen, but it's interesting that it really does make things pretty symmetrical.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 7:33 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
I like the look of this layout.
The shift of power would move to the East.
The shift of power would move to the East.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 7:35 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yep, I was thinking the same thing.
And it preserves the longstanding rivalries (bama/tenn and Auburn/UGA)
And it preserves the longstanding rivalries (bama/tenn and Auburn/UGA)
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:34 am to warcry
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I like the look of this layout.
It really does feel like a pretty good fit overall in terms of the map and the layout of the divisions, both in competitiveness and individual yearly matchups.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
Biggest issue is they bring no value
All sec teams will have to take a cut in tv money to let them in
We are not a charity. And the sec wants to elevate it's academic standing not drag it down
All sec teams will have to take a cut in tv money to let them in
We are not a charity. And the sec wants to elevate it's academic standing not drag it down
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
Historically speaking that would make the top part of the East much tougher IMO. But we would still have the 3 "worst" programs so it may even it out.
1. Alabama (East)
2. Oklahoma (West)
3. Tennessee (East)
4. LSU (West)
5. Georgia (East)
6. Florida (East)
7. Auburn (East)
8. A&M (West)
9. Arkansas (West)
10. Ole Miss (West)
11. Missouri (West)
12. Oklahoma St (West)
13. Miss St. (West)
14-16. SC, Vandy and UK.
1. Alabama (East)
2. Oklahoma (West)
3. Tennessee (East)
4. LSU (West)
5. Georgia (East)
6. Florida (East)
7. Auburn (East)
8. A&M (West)
9. Arkansas (West)
10. Ole Miss (West)
11. Missouri (West)
12. Oklahoma St (West)
13. Miss St. (West)
14-16. SC, Vandy and UK.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
I wouldn't mind it except for I'm not sure I'd like having two newbs in one division.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
Both schools bring a lot to the table as well.
For years the east has been the dominant division in basketball with Kentucky, Florida and Vandy. OU and OSU both bring respectable basketball programs to the west.
Both schools also put together respectable baseball teams. I like the fit.
For years the east has been the dominant division in basketball with Kentucky, Florida and Vandy. OU and OSU both bring respectable basketball programs to the west.
Both schools also put together respectable baseball teams. I like the fit.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:38 am to Old Sarge
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Biggest issue is they bring no value All sec teams will have to take a cut in tv money to let them in We are not a charity. And the sec wants to elevate it's academic standing not drag it down
We get it, A&M fans like being able to laugh at the BXII (specifically Texas and Oklahoma). You guys aren't going to be for anything to gives Oklahoma a life raft.
In terms of 2016 reasons for adding teams it probably won't hit enough of the necessities to add programs. However, they are one elite and one pretty decent athletic program and they make the split work really well. Not a reason to do it, but interesting to look at.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:38 am to Old Sarge
Are OU and OSU not decent schools? I would have thought they could hold their own academically. Where would they rank in the SEC academically?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'd rather keep playing LSU and Ole Miss every year than have Okla in the conference.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:42 am to UpToPar
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Are OU and OSU not decent schools? I would have thought they could hold their own academically. Where would they rank in the SEC academically?
Obviously not the end all be all, but here is US News
US News
#103 - Tennessee
#108 - Oklahoma
#129 - LSU
#129 - Kentucky
#140 - Ole Miss
#149 - Oklahoma State
#161 - Mississippi State
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 7:45 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:43 am to UpToPar
They are not dumpster fires but certainly not improvements
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yea, I thought they would have been better than that. I figured OU would be on par with UGA/Florida/Bama.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
I like both Oklahoma schools personally.
I actually like the Sooners, cowpokes, and both their football coaches are two of my favorites.
I also like their people.
My statement was just about money and value. I know they both have very respectable athletic programs, despite the grief I give Charlottesooner on here (he's really a horn you know)
I actually like the Sooners, cowpokes, and both their football coaches are two of my favorites.
I also like their people.
My statement was just about money and value. I know they both have very respectable athletic programs, despite the grief I give Charlottesooner on here (he's really a horn you know)
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:46 am to UpToPar
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I figured OU would be on par with UGA/Florida/Bama.
I think OU is probably about on par with Alabama. I think things are going really well at Alabama, but we aren't on the same level as A&M/UF/UGA.
I think, from everything I've read, Oklahoma is probably in that general pretty good not great public school group that most of the SEC is in (Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU, South Carolina).
I don't know much at all about Oklahoma State, but my assumption was always that they compared pretty favorable to Mississippi State.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 7:47 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:47 am to Old Sarge
I like the split.
Bring both of the schools over. Let's do it.
Bring both of the schools over. Let's do it.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 7:49 am to UpToPar
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I figured OU would be on par with UGA/Florida/Bama.
No.
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